Can I stay on my boat?

Old Harry said:
Our nxt door neighbours seem to be preparing for sons 19 birthday bash, "lets party" bunting going up in the garden o_O.
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Middle of three grand daughter had her birthday 1st May.
She had the usual party trimmings, balloons on the house and a bouncy castle.
But no guests of course - she does have two sisters and they keep each other entertained. We sang happy birthday by video chat. Not the best 4th Birthday but she didn't seem to mind.
Next birthday is her older sister on 5th June - will be age 6 .

I dont blame people for wanting a birthday celebration even if it can't be a real party.
 
Blue Sunray said:
Marina rules may or may not be covered in the berthing contract, however most "harbour authorities" simply do not have the power to make a rule forbidding one from sleeping overnight on a boat nor any right to impose a sanction (standfast where they are renting you a mooring from said authority where a contact might apply).

Just because a myriad of minor officials across the land have decided to send out emails, post on Facebook, Twitter et al does not mean that the content of said emails has any merit or that any 'rules' contained therein actually exist in any meaningful form.
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Agreed, so is the start of the revolution against petty officialdom.
I strongly suspect they've forgotten who the customer is. :)
 
Plan A; Drive 150 miles to boat, stopping for fuel on the way. Open marina barriers, load boat etc etc (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus). Sail all day. Open marina barriers, load car etc etc Drive 150 miles to home, stopping for fuel on the way (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus).

Next day, repeat above.

Plan B: Drive 150 miles to boat, stopping for fuel on the way. Open marina barriers, load boat etc etc (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus). Sail all day. Sleep on boat, sail all day again. Open marina barriers, load car etc etc Drive 150 miles to home, stopping for fuel on the way (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus).

I have been and still am, in full support of social distancing and sensible precautions. Looks to me like Plan B has half the risks of Plan A.
 
PaulRainbow said:
Plan A; Drive 150 miles to boat, stopping for fuel on the way. Open marina barriers, load boat etc etc (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus). Sail all day. Open marina barriers, load car etc etc Drive 150 miles to home, stopping for fuel on the way (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus).

Next day, repeat above.

Plan B: Drive 150 miles to boat, stopping for fuel on the way. Open marina barriers, load boat etc etc (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus). Sail all day. Sleep on boat, sail all day again. Open marina barriers, load car etc etc Drive 150 miles to home, stopping for fuel on the way (all of the things where you might contract or spread the virus).

I have been and still am, in full support of social distancing and sensible precautions. Looks to me like Plan B has half the risks of Plan A.
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Plan C:- Don't go to the boat at all. Stay at home. Less risk again. But that was last week's guidance and social model.
Plan D:- Stay home stay in bed don't get up. Even less risk.
At some point we have to move forward within an acceptable risk model. That's what Boris is trying to do.
Plan B for me every time.
 
PaulRainbow said:
I have been and still am, in full support of social distancing and sensible precautions. Looks to me like Plan B has half the risks of Plan A.
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greeny said:
Plan B for me every time.
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I agree stopping overnight on your own boat in your own household group is zero risk.
But that's not the rule.... yet ... Give it a couple of weeks and the rules will probably be relaxed . ..... providing you obey the rules now.

Mass disobedience will tighten the lockdown. Don't contribute to those who might spoil it for everyone.

C&RT are talking about a return to more or less normal boating from 1st June. I realise you are not on inland waters but the same rules will probably be applied to all. Please just obey the rules. Its only a couple of weeks more.
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greeny said:
Agreed. But doing 80 is breaking the law. Sleeping on your boat isn't in my opinion. For what it's worth.
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On the press conference today,
question on holidays, would camping and caravanning be allowed first as it was outdoors?
answer no, it is a damp confined space which is the last place they want people in with virus.

What Is not a boat but a damp enclosed space ? what lick have we ?

Brian
 
halcyon said:
On the press conference today,
question on holidays, would camping and caravanning be allowed first as it was outdoors?
answer no, it is a damp confined space which is the last place they want people in with virus.

What Is not a boat but a damp enclosed space ? what lick have we ?

Brian
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Clearly, he's never slept in a tent! It's hardly an enclosed space in terms of ventilation. Most drafty well ventilated place I can imagine aside from a wind tunnel.
Further, if this rationale is followed a man sleeping alone on a boat, tent, caravan or motorhome is still more of a risk than cramming 100 people into a railway carriage twice a day. This, apparently, is absolutely fine.
 
MartynG said:
I agree stopping overnight on your own boat in your own household group is zero risk.
But that's not the rule.... yet ... Give it a couple of weeks and the rules will probably be relaxed . ..... providing you obey the rules now.

Mass disobedience will tighten the lockdown. Don't contribute to those who might spoil it for everyone.

C&RT are talking about a return to more or less normal boating from 1st June. I realise you are not on inland waters but the same rules will probably be applied to all. Please just obey the rules. Its only a couple of weeks more.
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Only last week the majority of posters were banging on about the rules and the strict adherence of them, rather than applying common sense and applying the principle of them.

What’s good is that the strict adherence brigade are now in the minority (of this very unrepresentative cross section of society)
 
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halcyon said:
On the press conference today,
question on holidays, would camping and caravanning be allowed first as it was outdoors?
answer no, it is a damp confined space which is the last place they want people in with virus.

What Is not a boat but a damp enclosed space ? what lick have we ?

Brian
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We are not ruled by ministerial decree - particularly as the message has been confusing at best

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My boat is not a damp confined space, the only thing in the bilges is dust
 
Here's my practical experience from yesterday.

Drove 150 miles to the boat. No contact with anyone. All good. Especially now the A14 at Bar Hill is running at full speed.

Clicked and collected from the Chandler on the way through. Item left outside for me.

Got to the yard. Socially distanced, and had a short natter with the harbourmaster. Very few boats moving and the yard was pretty quiet. Loaded the dinghy, went out to the mooring, fitted a solar panel and had dinner aboard.

Evening was passed away with a 3hr Zoom meet with friends from around the country whilst all consuming beer, wine, whisky, rum etc. By which time I'd have been over the limit to drive home:rolleyes:

Today, a few boat jobs prior to a sail up the river when I'll pick up a mooring or anchor. I may inadvertently doze off early evening by which time getting back on the mooring it'll be dark. It would perhaps be unwise to head ashore in the dinghy to drive home, so I shall use common sense and stay aboard overnight.

You may see where this is heading.....

Risk to the populous....diddly squat.(y)
 
halcyon said:
On the press conference today,
question on holidays, would camping and caravanning be allowed first as it was outdoors?
answer no, it is a damp confined space which is the last place they want people in with virus.

What Is not a boat but a damp enclosed space ? what lick have we ?

Brian
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My boat is not damp, I am on my own. I don't have a fever. So that scenario doesn't fit.
My boat is not a caravan or tent.
The only people saying I can't sleep there, are the Marina. If I chose to ignore their rule I will not be prosecuted. They may take some other action against me but I'm prepared to accept that risk.
The risk of covid propagation is obviously a lot less by staying on the boat than travelling back and forwards with all the increased contact opportunity that presents.
If you can't see that then your logic is difficult to understand.
Read the message from government, sometimes you need to read between the lines. They are preparing to free up society. They are starting to empower the public to do their own risk assessment, make sensible decisions, and not do stupid things.
That's why they don't list trillions of activities with yes or no against them. They're going to let us be big boys, decide if it's safe to cross the road or overtake the next car. Risk assessment has been part of our lives since we were put on this earth.
I consider myself sensible enough to make those risk judgements on a day by day, hour by hour basis. We have the knowledge, we have a brain, we just need to use it.
We need to move with the times.
 
ballyabroad said:
Here's my practical experience from yesterday.

Drove 150 miles to the boat. No contact with anyone. All good. Especially now the A14 at Bar Hill is running at full speed.

Clicked and collected from the Chandler on the way through. Item left outside for me.

Got to the yard. Socially distanced, and had a short natter with the harbourmaster. Very few boats moving and the yard was pretty quiet. Loaded the dinghy, went out to the mooring, fitted a solar panel and had dinner aboard.

Evening was passed away with a 3hr Zoom meet with friends from around the country whilst all consuming beer, wine, whisky, rum etc. By which time I'd have been over the limit to drive home:rolleyes:

Today, a few boat jobs prior to a sail up the river when I'll pick up a mooring or anchor. I may inadvertently doze off early evening by which time getting back on the mooring it'll be dark. It would perhaps be unwise to head ashore in the dinghy to drive home, so I shall use common sense and stay aboard overnight.

You may see where this is heading.....

Risk to the populous....diddly squat.(y)
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Exactly what we should be doing. Assess the risk. Make the plan. Follow it. No increased risk. (y)
 
"There is something to be said for Communism, no public choice, so no discussion on what may be like here."

Brian


We seem to have forgotten that all this started in a communist state.
 
Wow I have just dipped back in to the forum, having been fed up with the blind obedient rule slaves, preachers and misery enthusiasts. It's very refreshing now to find out that there are actually many people who have been hiding, and think along the same lines as me! For me, it's not rocket science to use the boat. Just be sensible and cautious. Really not difficult at all.

Chances of getting or spreading CV19 when being sensible in our boating activity is almost zero. Especially compared to daily life i.e. supermarkets and the working environment.

Sure if you are really totally dim, you could simply not give stuff and head to work on what I see is really risky crowded public transport. Ignore social distancing and happily mix with every other dim person with the same don't care attitude, even perhaps ignoring the fact your your pal has minor symptoms. Hey it's only a cold. Then throw a party for 6 of your mates on your boat, but before that you all go to the busy supermarket for a few slabs of beer. How many boat enthusiasts are that thick? I expect very, very few.
 
Clearly there are those on this thread that think there is little harm spending the night on their boat despite the ambiguous guidance saying otherwise. So I set up an experiment. I set up an observation point on my boat armed with pizza and beer. During the evening I noticed several others, many metres away on other boats, carrying out a similar experiment. Harbourmasters launch came past several times and didn’t ask what I was doing. Unfortunately after said beers and pizza it was 9am before I knew it.
 
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