Calor 4.5 Butane and 3.5 Propane to be discontinued

[Martin_J]

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Perfect.... Now just need to see if the replacement cylinder would fit in the locker..

It still feels odd having the clip on connection... One extra possible point of failure in the high pressure side.

This did look like a cheaper migration to the new clip- on method (from a standard Calor 4.5kg using the left hand thread) but I'm now thinking that putting the regulator on the cylinder itself will remove the fact that there's currently high pressure gas in hoses in the locker. Swings and roundabouts come to mind.

 

[lustyd]

that there's currently high pressure gas in hoses in the locker

I'd never even thought of it that way. Not that its that high pressure, but still more than it could be.

 

[superheat6k]

Now confirmed. From 1 Feb 2023, the following are discontinued. Cube, 3.9kg Propane, 4.5kg Butane, 6Lite Propane and 12kg Butane cylinders

Your questions about our Cylinder range simplification, answered.

So they have decided to destroy the market they created for themselves.

I will not ever knowingly purchase another Calor product. As for we have rented you a cylinder we cannot support, but can offer you a completely unsuitable replacement. Well I find this outstanding.

 

[PeterWright]

Hi,

It took me a while to find the 4.5 kg bottles on the Flogas website (had to discover page 2 of their list of bottles - doh) but when I got there I couldn't find any mention of the bottles' dimensions. There are 3 which are fairly critical to fitting them into thousands of British built yachts:
Bottle height
Bottle diameter
Base diameter (this is not critical in all gas lockers)

If any forum member has a Flogas 4.5 kg bottle and can measure those and post on here, I and I ghess several others will be most appreciative.

Thank you, in anticipation.

Peter.

 

[Martin_J]

I think once you've found the right cylinder on the Flogas website, then there's a "Show full details button" which shows the dimensions as...



My reservation, as is yours, is that the base ring might be a larger diameter and the Approx 340mm might be closer to 360mm..

 

[st599]

I think once you've found the right cylinder on the Flogas website, then there's a "Show full details button" which shows the dimensions as...

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My reservation, as is yours, is that the base ring might be a larger diameter and the Approx 340mm might be closer to 360mm..

On their 3.9kg, they say there's 2 models with different handle heights.

 

[Martin_J]

On their 3.9kg, they say there's 2 models with different handle heights.

Ah... I was only looking at their 4.5kg butane. Like for like in kg...

 

[LadyInBed]

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PS I see jimi beat me to it

 

[LadyInBed]

I'm now thinking that putting the regulator on the cylinder itself will remove the fact that there's currently high pressure gas in hoses in the locker.

That's a good point. ?

 

[ProDave]

For self refilling, the 47Kg cylinder has to be the most economic and least wasteful doner cylinder. Currently £102 for a 47Kg cylinder refil but I believe cheaper down south making it £2.17 per Kg so to fill a 3.9Kg cylinder would cost £8.46

If you are only using a large cylinder to fill smaller ones, I wonder just how much you can empty it before no more will transfer? That does not matter to us as we use the 47Kg cylinders for the cooker at home, so any left in the doner cylinder gets used at home.

 

[ProDave]

Will Calor FINALLY give me a free exchange from a 3.9Kg propane to a 6Kg propane? That always used to be an allowed swap but recently they have said no and I would have to pay a new rental for a 6Kg.

 

[StefanSG]

Tim, It says on the Calor Gas link in the Q & As that the POL hose is fitted with a non return valve to make filling from bottle to bottle impossible. Is that nonsense and do you use that hose? Thanks, Peter

I cant be the only mug who bought the POL house from sarabandes link.. (direct from calor.co.uk) has anyone received theirs and can you confirm if it works to refill or not ?

SSG

 

[Daverw]

I’m just looking at the same issue, I’ve been refillling 4.5kg which is not an issue as the hose fits directly onto the bottle but with 7kg needs the clip on connector. The non return valve in the connector I’ve just got is removable, just need to get the correct hex key that fits inside to undo fitting

 

[Elessar]

I will continue filling from large 15kg cylinder, takes 20 minutes and saves money as well

This is dangerous unless you really know what you are doing.

Remember saturated vapour pressure in school?

Butane and propane boil at room temperature. Keep them under pressure in a gas tight vessel and you control the boil.

As the temperature changes up and down, there will be some boil and some returning back to liquid. In a sealed cylinder that isn’t being used the amount of liquid will vary, the amount of gas will vary, but the pressure stays the same.

For this reason a full cylinder is not full of liquid. You buy it with mostly liquid and a certain percentage of gas.

If you overfill it and it warms up, the cylinder will fracture as liquid expands with temperature and is not compressible.

If you have a way of not overfilling your cylinders, fine. But recommending it to others is risky.

 

[lustyd]

If it were that dangerous surely Calor would be obliged to help prevent people doing it. They are actually driving this behaviour

 

[Daverw]

Not sure why you think it’s so dangerous, commenting about overfilling etc is not relevant and easily avoided just by simple weighing, all bottles have tare weight clearly stamped. The transfer is not so quick as you can be surprised, I’ve just today refilled a 7kg bottle and it took 30 minutes.

rules simple, Dont overfill and do it outside.

 

[Jim@sea]

The trucks still turn up so not true at all. Other cylinders are being exchanged.

At our local tip there must be 50 calor gas bottles of most sizes. Obviously Calor cant be bothered to collect them.

 

[PetiteFleur]

At our local tip there must be 50 calor gas bottles of most sizes. Obviously Calor cant be bothered to collect them.

Perhaps you should contact Calor and tell them about that - and complain as well!

 

[Daverw]

Might it be better if rather than scrap them at the local tip, people took them back to where they got them from, eg calor

 

[chrishscorp]

I moderate a Facebook group and this muck up is being discussed, one member tried taking his 4.5Kg bottle to a local distributor and get an exchange before it was knocked on the head, Nope we have none and the bottle is being discontinued and to add insult to injury they refused to take the empty back