Calor 4.5 Butane and 3.5 Propane to be discontinued

I for one have bought two Flogas bottles and am in the process of having replacement pipe work made up by Hayward (excellent company). After being exasperated by Calor for the last two years I see no reason to put the switch on hold, you just can’t trust them. The mustard Flogas bottles are barely any bigger than Calor bottles, and cheaper.
 
Under 'News' on the Calor website it states the 4.5's will only be available direct from their distribution centres. Just started my last full one, so if I can get the empty replaced, and based on this years limited plans, the revised Flogas suitable locker might now be a winter project.
 
smb said:
Under 'News' on the Calor website it states the 4.5's will only be available direct from their distribution centres. Just started my last full one, so if I can get the empty replaced, and based on this years limited plans, the revised Flogas suitable locker might now be a winter project.
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Did they say they’ll be reopening the distribution centres to the public too?
 
Flo gas for me. Tried to swap my 4.5 for the 7 as advertised but my usual stockists said they didn't have any and didn't know when they'd be getting a delivery.
 
KeithMD said:
Sorry I late to this thread, so please forgive me asking a question that's probably already been asked.

Our boat has the small 907 butane bottles with the screw-on connector.
907 Campingaz bottle | Flogas

if we're changing to the FloGas 7Kg butane bottle, is it simply a case of getting their clip-on connector as well?
7kg Butane Gas Cylinder With 21mm Regulator | Flogas
21mm Butane Clip on Regulator | Flogas
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You must use a marine gas regulator.
There is an internal build difference, the marine regulator will prevent liquid gas from flowing into the gas pipework if it is on and the boat is heeled over. I believe ASAP may have a marine regulator which would assist you in this case.
 
Now on camping Gaz. Things don't feel quite as safe as Calor. The regulator feels a bit flimsy. I also had the ball valve on the cylinder stick open. Had to give it a poke to get it to seal. Just wondering of it would be safer to use a valve adapter with a tap along with a calor style regulator.
 
It's surely still a pain with most of these Campingaz regulators in that you've got to fiddle around spinning the bottle underneath to attach it.

You could use the following adapter along with a high pressure hose to a bulkhead mounted regulator..

The silver part turns to fix it to the bottle and then the black knob turns the gas on and off. No spinning of bottle required.

(There's many ways to skin a cat as they would say)...


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Someone pointed out recently that when the hose leaks on those the leak is high pressure and unregulated so theoretically less safe than on bottle regulators for a boat. Not a huge worry, but something I’d never considered.
 
Yes it's too complicated. I just have a regulator. 1M of copper to an on off tap next to the cooker and nothing else. There's no point in having a pressure gauge. I use digital weighing scale to check contents.
 
KAM said:
Yes it's too complicated. I just have a regulator. 1M of copper to an on off tap next to the cooker and nothing else. There's no point in having a pressure gauge. I use digital weighing scale to check contents.
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The pressure gauge doesn't show the amount of gas left inside a cylinder because the pressure doesn't change as you use it. Instead the gauge is there to see if there is a leak. Pressurize the system, turn the cylinder valve off and observe the pressure for 3 minutes.
 
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lustyd said:
Someone pointed out recently that when the hose leaks on those the leak is high pressure and unregulated so theoretically less safe than on bottle regulators for a boat. Not a huge worry, but something I’d never considered.
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Although it's the same that way as with any other bulkhead mounted regulator. They're used in boats and caravans the world over.

If leaks were commonplace then I'm sure bulkhead mounted regulators would have been banned by now.

If a poor quality bottle mounted regulator fails then you could get full pressure gas through the low pressure hose.. not sure either is worse than the other..
 
My solution to changing a Camping Gaz cylinder without this spinning the bottle nonsense is to have the (lp) hose securd to the regulator with a clamp which can be undone without tools. I can then easily detach the hose , lift cylinder c/w regulator from the locker, transfer the regulator to the new cylinder, re-install in the locker and finally refit the hose
 
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