NorthRising
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But rats clinging to debris washing up on nearby seabird colonies would be a real concern so think out of the box - thanks.
Bulk carrier aground in the Minch
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bikedaft
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How is the salvage going? Anyone know?
Kelpie
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Couple of Fergusons boats were in the vicinity over the last few days. I think the plan was to offload at Uig. There was a fair bit of swell running recently so it can't have been a lot of fun.
NormanS
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A couple of Briggs boats have been back and forward between Kaami and Uig.
burgundyben
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Apparently there is going to be an attempt to refloat her.
Hadenough
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Looks like they have just got her off.
NormanS
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It looks as if she is being towed to Kishorn. They were lucky to have had such a fantastic spell of weather to unload the cargo.
Kukri
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Here’s one I made earlier. 
Papua New Guinea. Complied with the well known rule that most casualties happen in the 12 to 4 am watch.
Partly my fault for insisting that we try one man bridge operations and setting the class of ships up for that. The experiment was discontinued...
Second Mate got the wooden spoon for falling asleep with the dead man alarm turned off, but a consolation prize for not damaging the bow thruster.
That was 26 years ago, she was four years old at the time and that was her only misadventure; she never hit anything else, never hurt anyone and never damaged a stick of cargo. She certainly doesn’t owe her owners anything. She is about to go up the beach permanently as soon as her owners (she never changed hands) can find a way to fly the crew home.
Papua New Guinea. Complied with the well known rule that most casualties happen in the 12 to 4 am watch.
Partly my fault for insisting that we try one man bridge operations and setting the class of ships up for that. The experiment was discontinued...
Second Mate got the wooden spoon for falling asleep with the dead man alarm turned off, but a consolation prize for not damaging the bow thruster.
That was 26 years ago, she was four years old at the time and that was her only misadventure; she never hit anything else, never hurt anyone and never damaged a stick of cargo. She certainly doesn’t owe her owners anything. She is about to go up the beach permanently as soon as her owners (she never changed hands) can find a way to fly the crew home.
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James_Calvert
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I thought the minimum requirement was one man one dog, with the dog trained to keep the man awake?
Kukri
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You have omitted the parrot. I used to have a copy of that cartoon, taped onto a pillar in my office, but I’ve lost it.
Anyway, it was a parrot to remember the regulations, an Officer of the Watch, and a dog trained to bite the man if he touched anything. I think it came from “Fairplay”. ?
Stemar
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Round about the time I started sailing I read a MAIB report of a coaster heading up the channel one night - 12-4 again! The Russian captain was off watch and asleep and the Polish mate was on watch with a bottle of whisky to keep him company. Eventually, he got bored, turned off the alarm and went to his cabin to cuddle the bottle. The first anyone else knew was when the ship steamed full ahead up Dungeness point. It's coloured my attitude towards commercial vessels to this day. AFAIAC, here's no one looking (or they simply can't see me) until proven different.
Quandary
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Kaami now appears to be in the huge dry dock, does anyone know how it works, KPL claim over 13 m. at springs but there do not appear to be gates, just huge concrete walls which they seem to use as quays, do they have to breach and rebuild these to use the dry dock? Obviously they would have done that when floating out the concrete oil rig and the Skye bridge caissons but seems a big project for one scruffy Russian cargo boat?
Apologies, a look at Wiki reveals that there are two sets of gates both now claimed to be functioning, just not visible or mentioned on KPLs website.
Apologies, a look at Wiki reveals that there are two sets of gates both now claimed to be functioning, just not visible or mentioned on KPLs website.
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NormanS
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The money that has been expended on this salvage exercise must be far greater than the value of the ship. I can understand the removal of the cargo. Nowadays people get quite twitchy about plastic granules in the sea, but the ship? It would have been a fine marker for Sgeir Graidach. ☺
bikedaft
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indeed
it is a puzzle - i guess that they or their insurers have been compelled to fund the salvage?dunedin
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Litter and junk should be removed from scenic areas. And the insurance should cover it.
Perhaps we should leave crashed cars and buses etc litter3d round Trafalgar Square and the likes?
Kukri
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indeed
Correct. The removal of wrecks where required by law is covered by the P&I Clubs. The biggest P&I claim ever was the removal of the Costa Concordia
NormanS
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Just for interest, who determines, and what are the deciding factors, re the removal of a wreck. For instance, there's a wrecked French trawler, at the NW corner of the Isle of Rum, which has been there for years now.
bikedaft
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thanks
Kukri
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Well, the law does, but it’s a moving target!
When I were a lad, wrecks were removed, under port and harbour legislation, if they blocked ports or waterways.
Then Governments started to give themselves more powers, so for example the wrecks of the Herald of Free Enterprise and of the Tricolor were removed because they were a hazard to navigation in the English Channel.
Then the Costa Concordia was removed because she was an eyesore in a beauty spot, and she was removed in a very fancy way in order to avoid environmental damage.
And now we have reached the point where all merchant ships have to carry “evidence of compulsory insurance” against:
Oil pollution from cargo or bunkers
Crew wages if the ship sinks or the owner goes bust
Wreck removal
That trawler will have pre-dated the compulsory insurance
Kelpie
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Must be a recent change then, she went around in 2011 or 2012