Bringing an old boat back to life

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Volvo Paul - Testimonial - Bringing an old boat back to life

Dream Finder is a Powles 46 Express Cruiser. Only 14 of this craft were ever made between 1978 and 1983 and all were for export.

Built to Lloyds list standards these boats appear to have a good reputation and I fell in love with her pretty much at first sight back in the summer of 2007.

Dream Finder was one of the first Powels 46’s built. Launched in 1978, her original manual makes interesting reading, particularly as she has had more than one name change in the past.

Originally called ‘Lady Roxanne’, past bills of sale from the UK Ship Register and Customs paperwork show her arriving in the UK in 1989 under the name ‘Special Reserve’ which appears to have been changed to ‘Dream Finder’ in 1994.

Dream Finder is my first boat. It has been an extremely steep learning curve and the first two years she was used quite extensively. The original Volvo Penta 270HP TAMD-70C engines gave a lovely low throbbing noise at tick over but unfortunately also obscured the view with clouds of smoke even when at running temperature. Clearly they were well worn – and consequently the furthest we ever ventured from our home port of Portishead other than a trip round Lundy was Swansea.

Not knowing anything about boats or engines I was somewhat reliant on local experts, all of whom were telling me it was time to re-engine.

The wheels started to wobble on a fast trip back from Swansea. Just passing St Marys Well Bay we lost power to both engines and a huge cloud of black smoke began billowing out of the port exhaust.

It turned out we had sheered the exhaust elbow just above the turbo outlet on the starboard engine. On a falling tide we managed to limp into Penarth on one engine just about making the last lock.

Needless to say SWMBO was not impressed. Running repairs and we limped back into Portishead that evening.

The local mechanic took the offending elbow, cleaned it and welded back together. All fitted and right as a bobbin – or so we thought.

Next trip – a lovely weekend in Watchet. We joined Mike and Ashley with their boat Sweet Sensation and were about 1/3 of the way back when power went on the starboard engine. Turned out the damage from the previous trip was more extensive than first thought. A hole had developed in the exhaust pipe. Hot exhaust was jetting out and hitting the hydraulics eventually melting through.

We managed to get both engines in gear and running at about 7 knots headed for home. Thankfully Mike had radioed ahead and like the champion he is had waited for us outside the lock as we once more struggled to make the last lock in. This time with no throttle or gear control.

SWMBO – stood at the bow ready to throw the rope had no idea that the only way I had to slow the boat down was to turn the engines off so as we hit the sea lock at 7 knots got the shock of her life.

Needless to say she was not a happy bunny and the ultimatum was delivered. She was not venturing out the lock gates again until all the problems had been sorted once and for all.

The advice from the local engineer was new engines. The engineer knew where a Volvo D6-370 was available virtually brand new and in the heat of the moment had very little trouble persuading me to purchase this alongside ordering one for delivery by Christmas.

Little did I know however that the recession was to hit my business in spades the following month. Overnight work dried up and any spare cash was diverted to keeping the business afloat. Being forced to reduce my workforce by 50% I had no choice but to cancel the order for the second engine and batten down the hatches until things righted themselves. That was in November 2009.

Poor old Dream Finder sat at her mooring going nowhere until February this year. I had several attempts at repairing the old engines. Reasoning that in actual fact the engines themselves had not broken (, the underlying cause of all the problems turned out to be a cooling pipe that had kinked closed).

Subsequent trips lead to belts shredding (due to a damaged woodruff key on an alternator pulley) and finally to a cam follower snapping presumably due to the valve clearances being too loose. (This was despite having the engines serviced and tappets set). SWMBO seriously underwhelmed and I resigned to having to replace the engines after all.

In February this year I decided enough was enough. Older, wiser and somewhat poorer something had to happen.

But what to do for the best? Volvo had changed the series of D6 and put their prices up significantly. Purchasing a new engine would mean having to downgrade the electronic bits (I’m not an expert in the terminology here but it sounded expensive) Marina fees were going up (again) and Dream Finder was taking on an atmosphere of neglect though lack of use.

I quickly determined that new engines were out of the question – I simply could not afford them. Not knowing anything about marine engines however I needed advice on where to turn.

That was when I turned to the forum – probably the best thing I could have done.

Posts on here lead very quickly to several recommendations for Volvo Paul.

A quick PM and a couple of telephone conversations later and Paul agreed to come down to Portishead to take a look.

The minute I met Paul I knew this was the right decision. A thorough inspection of the existing engines and a couple of phone calls to various suppliers determined that – yes on balance these engines needed to be replaced. Mainly because the rebuild kits were no longer available but also because he was able to demonstrate to me how he diagnosed things like piston wear and oil pressure.

Paul knew of a pair of TAMD-61A engines someone was selling but although he was reasonably certain they were in good condition – less than 1000 hours. Quite rightly however he recommended I speak to the owner and view them before purchase telling me what to look for and offering to come with me.

He spent a good deal of time measuring up the engine room, checking things like sump clearance and mounting positions as well as discussing gearboxes. The current gearboxes were straight through and the engines mounted at an angle. He determined the gearboxes were in good condition and confirmed through his contacts in the trade that they would fit straight on the replacement engines and would handle the increased HP – a bonus as the alternative would mean extensive changes to the engine bay.

He went away to crunch numbers – I spent some time looking at my options and researching alternative engines as well as arranging a viewing on the TAMD-60A’s.

On balance I came to the conclusion that the TAMD-60A did seem to be the best option around at this time.

These TAMD-60A engines were first put into service in 1995 but were taken out and mothballed in 2005. Subsequently I viewed them in the vendor’s garage and spent a couple of hours with him going through their history, the reason for replacement (which seemed genuine) and a good old visual inspection.

The only thing I was not happy about was not being able to see them up and running so after a long discussion with Paul we came to an arrangement where I held back a sum in the event of any problems.

Deal done I set about stripping Dream Finder for transport to Newark on Trent for the refit; removing the Radar Arch and as much as the fly bridge as possible to lower her height.
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Prior to her going I also spent a couple of weekends preparing for lifting the old engines and fitting the new. Dream Finder has a teak deck on her fly bridge which covers a fiberglass hatch. It took me three days and the near loss of a little finger to remove the teak and sealant from the hatch to a point where it could be lifted. I also had to dismantle the ceiling in the saloon and remove all of the benching to expose the floor panels over the starboard engine.
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She was lifted on the 31st March and arrived in Newark the following day. Having not experienced transporting a boat before I have to say this was quite an anxious time. I had no idea just how little road clearance these trailers have and at 19 tonnes the transport company had one or two stressful moments. Not least of which was grounding out and blocking the A46 at Newark whilst trying to enter the Marina.
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Safely delivered and chocked on hard standing I set about undoing the two years of neglect whilst Paul got on with the business of removing and replacing the engines.
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The old engines were out in short order and I spent a couple of weekends decontaminating the engine room - cleaning up all the mess left by the sheered exhaust elbow, scrubbing every surface prior to repainting with grey garage paint. I must say it came up really well after two bottles of Cillit Bang, several packs of nappies to soak up the oily bilge water and a couple of hundred disposable cloths.
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Engine room ready I left Paul to his work whilst I scraped away at the anti-foul, primed and painted, scrubbed and polished the hull and generally did all the jobs you expect on an annual lift out.
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I always get a kick out of watching a master craftsman at work and to my mind that is exactly what Paul is. Preparation is the key and everything was measured to the millimetre. The front mounting points needed moving some 10mm and new mounting brackets were required.
 
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Dream Finder’s hydraulics has a separate gear lever for each engine and I wanted to retain this if possible. Not only to reduce the disruption to the Con areas, but also to retain the character of the boat. Paul adapted them to fit. Exhaust manifolds were fashioned to extend the Exhaust elbow, leaks were found and eliminated, new fuel filters fitted and larger raw water requirements meant replacing sea cocks and water strainers.
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Meantime the props were despatched to Clements Marine to be cleaned and re-pitched to suit the new engines. The props are something that I am a little annoyed about to be honest. I had to replace them a couple of years ago due to advanced electrolysis.

The shaft bonding had failed and the engineer who provided the replacement props was engaged to both fit them and repair the bonding. Something that I had to nag about for approximately six months before it was finally completed by which time she was already back in the water.

It turns out that the bonding was not done properly even then and as a result the starboard prop was showing advanced signs of corrosion. It was touch and go as to whether it could be saved.

Clements also pointed out that the props were actually slightly too large and that this was probably the case right the way through Dream Finder’s life as the original props were also too large. (Something to check folks – apparently the older boats were propped with no fuel or additional weight and this can have a significant impact). The refurbished props look lovely though don’t they?
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There were a couple of delays in the whole process due to commitments at the Marina. Access to the crane for lift out and lift in of engines meant that a six week programme of work extended into 8 but on the whole things went surprisingly smoothly. Soon she was ready to go back in the water and start the engines for the first time.

Having stood for six years we had no idea what state they would be in and Paul had advised we not change filters etc. until we had got them running. Even at this stage there was a chance things could be drastically wrong.

As it turned out the fuel injectors did need refurbishing (something that Paul had warned me would be the case) but the original owner agreed to pay for this something I was not expecting, but am grateful for.

Once this was done the effect was amazing – I am used to leaning on the starter whilst the big old diesels cough and splutter into life. These are more like starting a car – one turn and you’re off!

8 weeks after leaving Portishead Dream Finder was back to life and the best thing?.... that low rumble at tick over is the same as always – just without the bonfire.
Having spent four years at Portishead I had already decided it was time for a change and again Paul had some good advice.

Dream Finder is now at the cabin boatyard on the Hamble – a delightful spot with a real family atmosphere ( so much so that a friend moved his boat there last month after I mentioned our plans). It turns out that the mooring fees are only £40 per month more than Portishead.

I had a budget and a timescale in mind for the overall project and although we are slightly over Paul has also done a lot of other necessary jobs along the way. New deep sea seals, new cutlass bearings and fixing the anode bonding to name but a few. Thanks to Paul’s advice I have been able to recoup some of this through selling the old engines (who would have thought that?) and the surplus to requirements gearboxes so combined with the savings on marina fees I am still on track.

When we arrived in Southampton we had to refit the radar arch and put the fly bridge back together. I was extremely grateful for the help of my old mate Ray and Nigel and Ash who offered even though I had only just met them.
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Sealing the fly bridge hatch and taking things apart have been a great opportunity to trace and fix leaks. Paul has still to fit the gages on the fly bridge having sourced a complete set to replicate what is downstairs – something of an improvement from the rev counters and alarm lights I had before.

There is still a lot of work to do to replace and repair the interior trim. We took the decision to bin the old benching and are in the process of saving up for the next project – new galley and bathrooms as well as replacing the decor. (Pink and grey Formica at the moment and the walls are white and sun faded blue).

Leaks into the aft cabin have meant removing the ceiling and the walls need recovering but before this can happen the next major project has to be replacing the back deck as the supports underneath are a rotten from as a result.

Dream Finder’s sister is for sale on the Ancasta web site and SWMBO loves the rich chocolates and browns on the photos.

We want to move things around a little too. Get rid of the side cabin and move the galley to the starboard side giving more room for seating and extending the midships bathroom slightly.

Personally I am looking forward to the sea trials followed by exploring the Solent with SWMBO who is now making all the right noises.
 
Spooky that. Just been reading the posts on here of the previous owner, and also looking at the other one on ancasta. New that boat for quite a few years. It used to be on the severn and the then owner always had trouble with those old volvos smoking and always letting him down, until it moved to portishead and was sold to a new owner. We would have bought it but due to being a month or two late we didnt. She then disappeared from portishead-much to my disappointment as I always enjoyed looking at her when we came in-and this is what you have been doing to her. Will she be making an appearance at portishead again?
 
Probably not unless it is as a visitor.

There were several reasons, one being that the building going on there gets everywhere and it was a constant grind to keep up with the film of grime being deposited, but the main reason was the opportunities for visiting different places are more varied where she is now.

I plan to do a lot of cruising now she is capable. I kept the tanks topped off so I need to burn a couple of thousand litres of diesel that is two years plus. (well that's my excuse anyhow)
 
Shame I did like the boat, but im glad shes got a new life. We visited portishead last week on the boat and we were shocked by the amount of building that is going on. Its like one big building site, not nice and when its finished it will be a complex with a marina in the middle, not a town anymore. Anyway I hope you enjoy burning that diesel.
 
Nice boat, now with nice mechanical's

Volvopaul has done it again, so often people on here are moaning about poor service or
Poor quality repairs but its great to see credit going to someone who deserves it. Paul is just one of the good guys with a wealth of experience , so glade he looks after my boat to.

Hope you enjoy the Hamble & the excellent cruising grounds the Solent has to offer.... and not many locks to stress SWMBO out ;-)
 
Lovely looking boat and an interesting post, but I have to say rather you than me, that's one heck of a lot of work! But well done on persevering, I hope you have many happy days on board enjoying the fruits of your labour.
 
Lovely looking boat and an interesting post, but I have to say rather you than me, that's one heck of a lot of work! But well done on persevering, I hope you have many happy days on board enjoying the fruits of your labour.

It is a lot of work I agree but the major part is now over. The rest is now cosmetic. She has polished up lovely and the saloon has a new ceiling. More importantly it has withstood recent downpours leak free.

I'm going to get some cheap carpet for the saloon for now whilst we save up to do the job properly. Looking forward to the Southampton boat show to get new ideas.
 
Sea Trials

Well we completed sea trials yesterday with mixed results.

It was a lovely evening for a first trip down the hamble and oil pressure, temp. etc remained perfect.

Turning towards Netley we opened up to 1500 and all still fine but Paul not happy about the amount of smoke from the oil filler on the starboard engine. It could be things need bedding in or it could be rings/linings. My heart dropped.

Port engine had a piece out of the inlet manifold gasket - no big deal - I expected seals and gaskets to be problematical after sitting for six years.

Turned aroung and took her up to 2200 (top speed at 2800) she came upon the plane beautifully and was running at 17knots (pretty much the same as with the old engines so the promise of a better top speed) and things sounded beautiful. All the new gauges on the flybridge working fine including turbo boost (something I haven't had before).

Paul checked down below, no change, the smoke no better or worse. After about 10 minutes something happened (not sure exactly what but the engine tone changed) . Throttle down to tickover and the port engine was making a ticking/spitting noise. Maybe an injector sleeve? But no puff of air from the blowback so we pootled back in leaving port at tick over and starboard at about 10,000 rpm.

Moored to the pontoon we discovered the port engine would not turn off. Maybe a blown or dislodged fuse? With the starboard engine off the ticking noise was more distinct. Maybe a valve? Hmm....

Buying second hand engines was always a risk and as Paul pointed out we would not have picked this up on a quick blip. I expected some teething problems and have not been disappointed.

Paul is going to get cracking this week and do a compression test on the starboard engine too. Bearing in mind both engines start within a second of turning the key, compression should not be a problem.

Hopeful we will be able to have another go soon.
 
Well we completed sea trials yesterday with mixed results.

It was a lovely evening for a first trip down the hamble and oil pressure, temp. etc remained perfect.

Turning towards Netley we opened up to 1500 and all still fine but Paul not happy about the amount of smoke from the oil filler on the starboard engine. It could be things need bedding in or it could be rings/linings. My heart dropped.

Port engine had a piece out of the inlet manifold gasket - no big deal - I expected seals and gaskets to be problematical after sitting for six years.

Turned aroung and took her up to 2200 (top speed at 2800) she came upon the plane beautifully and was running at 17knots (pretty much the same as with the old engines so the promise of a better top speed) and things sounded beautiful. All the new gauges on the flybridge working fine including turbo boost (something I haven't had before).

Paul checked down below, no change, the smoke no better or worse. After about 10 minutes something happened (not sure exactly what but the engine tone changed) . Throttle down to tickover and the port engine was making a ticking/spitting noise. Maybe an injector sleeve? But no puff of air from the blowback so we pootled back in leaving port at tick over and starboard at about 10,000 rpm.

Moored to the pontoon we discovered the port engine would not turn off. Maybe a blown or dislodged fuse? With the starboard engine off the ticking noise was more distinct. Maybe a valve? Hmm....

Buying second hand engines was always a risk and as Paul pointed out we would not have picked this up on a quick blip. I expected some teething problems and have not been disappointed.

Paul is going to get cracking this week and do a compression test on the starboard engine too. Bearing in mind both engines start within a second of turning the key, compression should not be a problem.

Hopeful we will be able to have another go soon.

sincerely hope only slight tinkering required, for interest were the engines layed up by a professional prior to removal do you know?

Oh, and 10000 rpm from a diesel... are you sure you haven't got the first hayabusa engined Powles? ;):D
 
Ran engine tonight to diagnose fault, seems compression is firing back into inlet manifold, carried out compression test, zero comp on no 6 cylinder suspect broken valve or maybe burnt out seat etc, started stripdown.
 
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