Boating During Lockdown?

Little Grebe said:
Are you advocating the sailing community remains at home and does take up the Government's invitation to go outside for exercise and recreation and if not have you considered that the risk of transmission in other forms of exercise might be the same or greater?
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under the circumstances we have been asked to limit all activities other than essential ones
 
atol said:
under the circumstances we have been asked to limit all activities other than essential ones
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As a reminder from earlier in this thread we are encouraged to exercise outdoors or visit an outdoor public place which includes making short journeys to get there.

Your suggestion that we simply write off the rest of the sailing season as positive contribution to reducing infections must assume that we either don't go out at all for exercise or recreation or that alternatives such as a visiting a local park don't carry similar risks.

I would suggest the opposite is true with the later and that the risk of infection is greater so in fact your advice is hampering infection control efforts and not supporting them
 
Not really sure what the exercise value of 'sailing' a cruising yacht in November really adds up to.
Face the fact, it really not that great as exercise, except on your credit card.
 
Little Grebe said:
As a reminder from earlier in this thread we are encouraged to exercise outdoors or visit an outdoor public place which includes making short journeys to get there.

Your suggestion that we simply write off the rest of the sailing season as positive contribution to reducing infections must assume that we either don't go out at all for exercise or recreation or that alternatives such as a visiting a local park don't carry similar risks.

I would suggest the opposite is true with the later and that the risk of infection is greater so in fact your advice is hampering infection control efforts and not supporting them
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Does that include climbing over the fence of the closed marina or golf course because you have unilaterally decided it is safer?
There were 15 ambulances parked outside the Emergency dept. of our only hospital last week treating patients in the ambulances who had fallen off horses,got hit by golf balls or been in boating accidents etc. as the hospital was full.
 
atol said:
Does that include climbing over the fence of the closed marina or golf course because you have unilaterally decided it is safer?
There were 15 ambulances parked outside the Emergency dept. of our only hospital last week treating patients in the ambulances who had fallen off horses,got hit by golf balls or been in boating accidents etc. as the hospital was full.
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Maybe everyone should just be told to stay in bed?
 
RJJ said:
Actually, I think it's a load of tosh. What's really happening is that we have to be all "seen to be in it together" and "the rich" with second homes and yachts can't be seen having a relatively happy life. It doesn't make life an iota better for those poor souls stuck in council blocks that people with other options get cooped up too; the avoidance of envy is the main thing.
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I think there's a lot of truth to that.

I'm just resentful as, quite objectively, I am being held in a position of far greater risk staring at walls in the city, where I am forced to regularly interact with the virulent, than sitting by a river bank or working away by myself.

Last lockdown, recreational fishermen wrote themselves an exception to stay out a night on the basis of legal opinion.
pvb said:
Maybe everyone should just be told to stay in bed?
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Indeed. At least a way to save on central heating.

They should try dosing the nation on a month's supply of ketamine, a bit like the old bromide in the tea days.
 
James_Calvert said:
They are not boating, they are working. Or volunteering to care for others.

It's not the same as the previous lockdown.

It's essentially a ban on social activity. Any outdoor recreation should be fine providing you do it either individually or with one other. Doesn't have to be exercise either.
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Unfortunately recreation does not seem to be the word used in the guidance .

New National Restrictions from 5 November
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Atol said: excellent idea,6 weeks of that and the virus would be gone......

No, it would recur due to a reservoir somewhere in the community, or from animals, or from travel. Lockdown doesn't get rid of the virus, it is still there, it delays the spread, flattens the curve, the population is still vulnerable.
 
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Lucy52 said:
Atol said: excellent idea,6 weeks of that and the virus would be gone......

No, it would recur due to a reservoir somewhere in the community, or from animals, or from travel. Lockdown doesn't get rid of the virus, it is still there, it delays the spread, flattens the curve, the population is still vulnerable.
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But SARS died out.
 
It's depressing to hear the ways in which forum members are planning to subvert the rules just so they can enjoy their pastime. This is a serious situation and we should try to achieve the aims of the lockdown which are, as already been said, to reduce mingling and travelling. As it is, it seems likely that there will be restrictions in place over Christmas.
 
Lockdown skeptics who want to keep the economy going and keep their freedoms should lobby government to reduce covid deaths and bed blocking by allowing widespread "euthanasia" now for the old and frail .
 
atol said:
Lockdown skeptics who want to keep the economy going and keep their freedoms should lobby government to reduce covid deaths and bed blocking by allowing widespread "euthanasia" now for the old and frail .
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That might get some nice boats onto the second hand market as well.
 
Hallberg-Rassy said:
Because it's about stopping the spread of a virus, not killing all joy.

It's like Cromwell versus the Cavaliers, Puritans version 2.0, with a vengeance. Stopping the enjoyment of life won't fix things.

People boat and sail for health and sanity, and maintaining our assets is a pre-equirement for safety and value. Miss 3 months equal miss a year. Which is what I did last year.

As I wrote in another post, objectively, I am less of a risk, and less at risk, in a boat or boat yard. Shouldn't that be the guiding principle?

"Be at least risk".

If I had or if I do follow the guidance denanded of me, I'll be exponentially more of both. That's the fact.

The system should have incorporated an option for people who can use their brain and act responsibly, like; go to a magistrate, make your case, get a permit.

The fwits in government and civil services have no brains and are being forced to cope with idiots with less.

Sounds familiar?

Turns out I have a cavalier attitude ... and history records what happen to Cromwell.
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You have deliberately misquoted me at the beginning of this post. I did not make the comment you've attributed to me, and I do not agree with it. I'm reporting your post to the Moderators and asking for the false quote to be removed.
 
pvb said:
You have deliberately misquoted me at the beginning of this post. I did not make the comment you've attributed to me, and I do not agree with it. I'm reporting your post to the Moderators and asking for the false quote to be removed.
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Have pity on the poor dear, these computer things can be frightfully difficult to operate, it's quite probably incompetence rather than malice.
 
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