Lakesailor
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I don't have any specific Westerley advice to offer, but being a Homes Under The Hammer expert I can recommend covering the Treadmaster with either Artex or some nice polystyrene tiles.
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I don't have any specific Westerley advice to offer, but being a Homes Under The Hammer expert I can recommend covering the Treadmaster with either Artex or some nice polystyrene tiles.
doug748
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Must agree, It is not nice drilling additional holes in a boat.
I might either drill the extra holes in the bracket - if by some good chance the horizontal spacing was correct, or
Bolt a steel plate or ply pad to the transom using the existing holes and bolt the new bracket to that, using countersunk bolts from the back of the plate.
Mavanier
Billy Connelly nicked that gag from P G Wodehouse.
KevB
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Firstly, congratulation Dylan. Sounds like you're going to have a great adventure in your new boat. Even if you're taking SWMBO for part of the journey...
Re your outboard, surely the sails are plan B if the main engine fails?
Searush's batten idea for the headlining looks first class with very little expense or effort.
Re your outboard, surely the sails are plan B if the main engine fails?
Searush's batten idea for the headlining looks first class with very little expense or effort.
Battens for the headlining took me just an afternoon to do, just cut to the exact length & spring into place behind the curtain rail. Where there was no rail I used 3/4in csk brass self tappers into the cabin top, short enough to not penetrate into the balsa foam but long enough to trap the batten in place. I did it as a temporary job about 10 years ago.
dylanwinter
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you should always have Plan A, Plan B and Plan C
so the Tohatsu and a big bracket is plan B
I do not like to see an outboard bracket on the back of a boat but I would hate to be towed into a harbour
the outboard also have a pretty good charger on it so if I run out of juice for the battery for some reason then I can charge the battery to trun the engine over
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rob2
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It should be a whole new type of adventure, quite the opposite of the KTL principle, but needs must and variety is the spice of life. When I assembled a crew to fetch my "new" boat home, I made the mistake of indecision as to whether to day sail or make passage. Circumstances forced us to day sail as the shake down aspect of the trip revealed a few albeit minor problems which were much easier to fix in daylight. Also getting to the boat and transport victuals for the trip proved impossible, so we ended up popping into every bolt hole to go shopping, rather like nipping to the corner store - a lesson learned for future trips. Just like with fuel, food and drink needs to be plentiful and include reserves for any change in plan. e ened up with 100 litres of diesel for an engine which wouldn't run and a packet of crisps each for a day's passage!
Rob.
N.B. Not wanting to add to your paranoia about inboard engines, one of the crew fixed the engine whilst I was paying the marina fees. A simple need for new fuel hoses which the "engineer" who had "serviced" the engine a week before should have done.
Rob.
N.B. Not wanting to add to your paranoia about inboard engines, one of the crew fixed the engine whilst I was paying the marina fees. A simple need for new fuel hoses which the "engineer" who had "serviced" the engine a week before should have done.
Searush
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oh, so many things to pick up on since I last looked in!
You might be able to hand start that inboard. Certainly I could my MD2B if it had been run fairly recently, but not really practical if it was stone cold, even if fuel was primed, cold start on & with the decompressors up until it's turning fast.
Headlining is an excellent solution, mine was really baggy hanging down.
You will need at least a few days "shake down" sailing to sort out any dangerous issues before you go for the biggy. But don't try to get everything sorted first or you will never leave!
There is nothing wrong with the rudder.
The chances of the holes on the bracket lining up are tiny, but so what? Just put a plate on the forward side of the transom to spread the load & fill the unnecessary holes. If really worried, just put the bracket on the starboard side & use a new name decal to cover the filled holes.
Isn't it lovely how everyone is following your progress, may it drive enough traffic to your site & vids to help fund the trip.
You might be able to hand start that inboard. Certainly I could my MD2B if it had been run fairly recently, but not really practical if it was stone cold, even if fuel was primed, cold start on & with the decompressors up until it's turning fast.
Headlining is an excellent solution, mine was really baggy hanging down.
You will need at least a few days "shake down" sailing to sort out any dangerous issues before you go for the biggy. But don't try to get everything sorted first or you will never leave!
There is nothing wrong with the rudder.
The chances of the holes on the bracket lining up are tiny, but so what? Just put a plate on the forward side of the transom to spread the load & fill the unnecessary holes. If really worried, just put the bracket on the starboard side & use a new name decal to cover the filled holes.
Isn't it lovely how everyone is following your progress, may it drive enough traffic to your site & vids to help fund the trip.
dylanwinter
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I will give her a good testing in the solent before heading off
I would rather break stuff there than further North.
I want to give the fuel system a thorough shaking as well
I think the rudder will be okay - I hope
as for the Centaur threads - I guess everyone knows what a Centaur is, they have seen them sailing and a goodly number have owned or at least sailed on one.
I am honoured at the interest - it is the old story.... what will happen next?
and of course neither I nor anyone else monitoring the journey knows the answer to that.
so chaps - for the delivery trip..... three blokes or four?
what watch pattern - I fancy trying the four hour watches
I am sure the Navy tried all sorts of combinations before setting on four hour watches
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and how long will it take
Kelpie
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Having done the vast majority of my sailing two up I do like the idea of taking three for extended passages. That way you get twice as much time 'off' as you do 'on' which must make a huge difference. Our boat is set up so that the on watch person can do absolutely everything. If you are off watch, then you are free to do what you want, unless an emergency crops up. I admit it took a while to persuade SWMBO that 'off watch' meant I was not getting back out of my sleeping bag unless we were actually being attacked by the Kraken.
I presume you'll be taking Ray with you?
I presume you'll be taking Ray with you?
dylanwinter
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Ray
Ray will be steering most of the way - although I shall certainly play with self steering
any suggestions chaps - has anyone got a centaur to self steer
katie L does it beautifully
but I assume a Centaur needs a bit more nursing
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Ray will be steering most of the way - although I shall certainly play with self steering
any suggestions chaps - has anyone got a centaur to self steer
katie L does it beautifully
but I assume a Centaur needs a bit more nursing
D
Searush
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Why??? They are beautifully balanced if sailed right, & I can't see you not treating a lady properly.
dylanwinter
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FairweatherDave
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Congrats Dylan, let the cameras roll! Boat looks great.
As a Centaur sailor of minimal experiences of long passages I reckon the space below lends itself to a crew of three. With all your neatly stored provisions and what not four will be a push if they aren't your family. The forecabin really sleeps one unless you have both read the Karma Sutra together. I've been tempted to ditch the forecabin/heads door altogether, it always seems awkward to get around. Searush inspired my battened headlining in the saloon, I used three and the job was simplicity itself. As a bit of a dinghy sailor when helming I like to be able to see over the top and always end up sitting on a fat fender, (6 inches above any treadmaster) and I use a little tiller extension for comfort too. Tried self-steering but only in the lightest of breezes. I'm not good enough and don't sail far enough. As long as Ray doesn't drain your starter battery you're alright. Really looking forward to some Centaur video. Good luck Dave
As a Centaur sailor of minimal experiences of long passages I reckon the space below lends itself to a crew of three. With all your neatly stored provisions and what not four will be a push if they aren't your family. The forecabin really sleeps one unless you have both read the Karma Sutra together. I've been tempted to ditch the forecabin/heads door altogether, it always seems awkward to get around. Searush inspired my battened headlining in the saloon, I used three and the job was simplicity itself. As a bit of a dinghy sailor when helming I like to be able to see over the top and always end up sitting on a fat fender, (6 inches above any treadmaster) and I use a little tiller extension for comfort too. Tried self-steering but only in the lightest of breezes. I'm not good enough and don't sail far enough. As long as Ray doesn't drain your starter battery you're alright. Really looking forward to some Centaur video. Good luck Dave
Simonpk
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JumbleDuck
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I think it depends very much or your crew and their preferences. For example, I love sailing at night, so for overnight trips I generally get some kip from 9 - 12, take her through from midnight till 6am and then sleep until 10 am or so, at which point we work on a "who fancies driving?" informal system until after dinner the next night. If you have a nighthawk or two on board, something like that might suit you. If everyone loves or loathes nighttime sailing equally, more and shorter night watches might work better.
dylanwinter
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I think three with space will be better
less risk of being disturbed by the snoring man ( not me.... I do not snore)
D
Zagato
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Congrats Dylan, good luck with her and your voyage.
dylanwinter
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I have written the first cheques... so she must be mine
two yachts..... that is such a sin
all those years spent campaigning on behalf of PNM sufferers - and now I am one
I must have been infected in some way
got to find a place to safely park Katie L on the Forth for the summer now
leaving her up there will be cheaper than driving all the way up with the trailer behind a rented van
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Searush
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You may be surprised, agreed that she is heavier & fatter than KTL, so may need a tad more puff to get her going, but they do sail far better than their looks would suggest.
Iliade
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Someone turned my heads door over and attached it to the forwards edge of the heads doorframe. Solves all access issues, but you might want a curtain if you wanted privacy in the forepeak.
+1 for the tiller extension, but I can see ahead just fine by sitting on the windward seat. But then I have no spray hood and the hatch always leaks ;0)
As for self steering, I have discovered that if i sheet my very tired and large genoa in close hauled then, even without a main set, there is more force behind the mast and she exhibits lee helm. Thus in stronger breezes it is important to reef the genoa to balance the rig or the Autohelm cannot keep up in the gusts. I'm sure Dylan's boat will have better sails than mine so this will not be an issue...
dylanwinter
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tiller extension
the previous owner was a dinghy sailor so when I uncovered the tiller I was very happy to see a tiller extension so that will save me having to fit one - never leave home without one is my motto
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the previous owner was a dinghy sailor so when I uncovered the tiller I was very happy to see a tiller extension so that will save me having to fit one - never leave home without one is my motto
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