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ganter said:
You can dewinterise it very easily. New filters, drop the oil and replace, bleed and give her some serious pre-heat before you turn the key.
If she's ashore stick a garden hose up her raw inlet .....
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There is always someone with a flat cap and Woodbine who says: " I wouldn't do that Mister"

It is one of the less endearing features of these columns.

Beware the man who does not dot every I and cross every leg. There is some sad sod somewhere who can cranny out a vapid comment. So here I am.

If you shove a hosepipe up a raw water inlet, served with a Jabsco type pump, often enough you will eventually flood the cylinders with water. It is a very bad plan.

In my defence, I plead that this really is a bad idea.
 
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doug748 said:
There is always someone with a flat cap and Woodbine who says: " I wouldn't do that Mister"

It is one of the less endearing features of these columns.

Beware the man who does not dot every I and cross every leg. There is some sad sod somewhere who can cranny out a vapid comment. So here I am.

If you shove a hosepipe up a raw water inlet, served with a Jabsco type pump, often enough you will eventually flood the cylinders with water. It is a very bad plan.

In my defence, I plead that this really is a bad idea.
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Doug, I thought that at first, & then re-read it. Although he mentions a hosepipe he doesn't say to a tap. He puts the hosepipe in a water butt & lets the engine suck up the hosepipe which should be OK as no water is being forced into the engine.
 
Simonpk said:
Doug, I thought that at first, & then re-read it. Although he mentions a hosepipe he doesn't say to a tap. He puts the hosepipe in a water butt & lets the engine suck up the hosepipe which should be OK as no water is being forced into the engine.
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Absolutely what I meant, thanks.

DO NOT pump water under mains hose pipe pressure into your engine. It will break it.
 
But it takes 20minutes under load to get the lump up to a meaningful temperature and assessable condition. Surely?

Might be good to flush the salt out tho. Ha, dismantle the water hose and taste it, maybe a freshwater rinse is part of these jolly expensive winterisings of which we speak..?

Rather than attempt to start it right now why not give the engineer a call and have a chat about the engine and his experiences/work history with it?
 
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ganter said:
You can dewinterise it very easily. New filters, drop the oil and replace, bleed and give her some serious pre-heat before you turn the key.
If she's ashore stick a length of garden hose up her raw inlet and likewise her exhaust port so to set up the supply and return to a big bucket/ water tank or best of all a wheellie bin full of water to get her juices running - if you'll pardon the expression.
Run her for a few minutes and see what she sucks like - again, pardon the expression. An 80 gallon fuel drum is perfect for the job and will give you at least twenty minutes of heat up time.

No time to find inboard hassles after launch - of a new boat - and when you least want it to fail.
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Blueboatman said:
But it takes 20minutes under load to get the lump up to a meaningful temperature and assessable condition. Surely?

Might be good to flush the salt out tho. Ha, dismantle the water hose and taste it, maybe a freshwater rinse is part of these jolly expensive winterisings of which we speak..?

Rather than attempt to start it right now why not give the engineer a call and have a chat about the engine and his experiences/work history with it?
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excellent plan

I shall follow through

the paperwork is extensive, detailed and neat

D
 
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I am on the boat - she is ashore - all halyards secured, fan heater going, slowly drying her out - lots of damp cushions

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/scuttlebutt/harmony-pix/

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the previous owners has left almost everything aboard, pots, pans, cleaning materials, charts.

She has an origo 3000 - good

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the electrics look horrible - no interior lights at this stage

will have another go in the morning

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D
 
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The electrics look like mine, do they work, mine do.

That little halfstep means that someone, usually me, can sit at the end of the saloon table in moderate comfort.

I only have one mast winch for the main. Your roller reefing looks like mine so you wouldn't need another winch except for reefing the main maybe.

The keels look quite good, are there any horrors hidden on the inside edges? A flappy disk or grinding disc on an angle grinder will make short work of those.

The saggy headlining, is that the bit outside the head, it looks like it? I pulled ours off and ditched it. I wouldn't paint the deck head with gloss because if you want to reline it properly at a later date the glue will just stick to the paint and remove it as the new lining falls off. a wire brush on a drill will shift the loose glue/foam.

Looks good for a 35yr old boat, sail number 50 before ours and many of the pics look very familiar.
 
aquaplane said:
The electrics look like mine, do they work, mine do.

That little halfstep means that someone, usually me, can sit at the end of the saloon table in moderate comfort.

I only have one mast winch for the main. Your roller reefing looks like mine so you wouldn't need another winch except for reefing the main maybe.

The keels look quite good, are there any horrors hidden on the inside edges? A flappy disk or grinding disc on an angle grinder will make short work of those.

The saggy headlining, is that the bit outside the head, it looks like it? I pulled ours off and ditched it. I wouldn't paint the deck head with gloss because if you want to reline it properly at a later date the glue will just stick to the paint and remove it as the new lining falls off. a wire brush on a drill will shift the loose glue/foam.

Looks good for a 35yr old boat, sail number 50 before ours and many of the pics look very familiar.
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if they work it seems a shame to change them

I have been offered some help from a bloke in Chich Harbour

I am pleased about the Origo

I hope the keels will be okay

they have been strengthened I think

I am the seventh owner

this is the second engine - there are lots and lots of hard to identify bits of pipe, wire, boxes of metal bits and bobs

aaaaagh!

sitting here on the dock she feels massive though

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dylanwinter said:
I am pleased about the Origo

I hope the keels will be okay

they have been strengthened I think


this is the second engine - there are lots and lots of hard to identify bits of pipe, wire, boxes of metal bits and bobs

sitting here on the dock she feels massive though

d
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Our Origo is a previous version but it works.

I think that the keels have been braced too, from the pics I have seen. For an occasional drying out it's not a problem either way.

Engines are easy. Look at the manual and find out how to change the oil, alternator belt, impeller and fuel filter and Robert is your dad's brother. Anything else you find out about as you need to, if ever.

It won't be huge with 4 and a dog on.

Using the Stbd quarterberth for storage because the cockpit locker is too small makes a B layout 4 berth max just like a C layout.
 
aquaplane said:
Our Origo is a previous version but it works.

I think that the keels have been braced too, from the pics I have seen. For an occasional drying out it's not a problem either way.

Engines are easy. Look at the manual and find out how to change the oil, alternator belt, impeller and fuel filter and Robert is your dad's brother. Anything else you find out about as you need to, if ever.

It won't be huge with 4 and a dog on.

Using the Stbd quarterberth for storage because the cockpit locker is too small makes a B layout 4 berth max just like a C layout.
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worrying number of books on engines aboard

she was born with 23 hp and now has 18 in a volvo 2002

so - anyone fancy telling me how I can find out how old the engine is



D
 
Engine will be pre 1993 but may of course be fitted after that date. Manuals specifications freely available on line. Parts from Keyparts usually a bit cheaper than Volvo.
 
Ah an Origo 3000,remember it well.Great wee burner for what it is.Once you get used to the extended cooking times as the burners aren't pressurised so have low output you realize just how safe a system it is.Had one on our previous boat but now have a full gas cooker with grill and oven.Much more versitile but many times when on the drive home you remember the gas taps are still on!There is however no such thing as a quick cupa,it took 10 mins plus to boil a full kettle.Always found the slight smell of meths strangely appealing too.
 
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nathanglasgow said:
Ah an Origo 3000,remember it well.Great wee burner for what it is.Once you get used to the extended cooking times as the burners aren't pressurised so have low output you realize just how safe a system it is.Had one on our previous boat but now have a full gas cooker with grill and oven.Much more versitile but many times when on the drive home you remember the gas taps are still on!There is however no such thing as a quick cupa,it took 10 mins plus to boil a full kettle.Always found the slight smell of meths strangely appealing too.
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G has left everything on the boat - charts, cooking utensils, fleece, sleeping bags. I have not seen the anchor chain yet apart from the rust marks it left on the foredeck.



Among the gubbins is an almost new single burner Origo - he must have picked it up at some time.

I wouokd be willing to swap the stove for a day from a bloke who knows about electrics - not to replace them just run an avometer of it and seek out the weak spots.

D
 
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