Boat sinks in Jersey

Re: Pershing 62 sinks

cstewart37 said:
https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2018/01/06/wreck-of-yacht-washes-up-in-france/

Wreck of yacht washes up in France

News | Published: 8 hours ago

THE hull of a boat – believed to be the £1.8 million yacht which sank off Jersey's south coast in November – has washed up near Portbail in Normandy.

Read more at https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/...acht-washes-up-in-france/#TxdG24vrHXwcX94q.99
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It rather puts the lie to the salvage company who said it had broken up and wasn't salvagable only two weeks ago. hull looks pretty complete to me.
 
Re: Pershing 62 sinks

Bathdave said:
It rather puts the lie to the salvage company who said it had broken up and wasn't salvagable only two weeks ago. hull looks pretty complete to me.
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Really? that's a fair distance to travel along the sea bed.... - How the heck does that happen??
 
Re: Pershing 62 sinks

If the salvage co recovered one engine i would hazard a guess that the other one fell out as well if it was bumping around on the bottom inverted . Then with a bit of buoyancy in the hull and most of the heavy items gone it could have floated anywhere . I'm guessing that a certain amount of air could have been trapped in the fuel / water / holding tanks if it inverted soon after sinking .
 
Re: Pershing 62 sinks

Bathdave said:
It rather puts the lie to the salvage company who said it had broken up and wasn't salvagable only two weeks ago. hull looks pretty complete to me.
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Nah, about a third is missing from the stern. Probably about where the engines sat?

Some hole in the bow below the waterline!

Sad sight
 
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I'm no oceanographer but surely that didn't travel that far in that length of time while in contact with the seabed. Given the colour it's however perfectly possible it was semi-submerged and not spotted all that time suggesting it's been a significant hazard to shipping (well boats at least) for the last few weeks. I'd hope the MAIB can shed some light on this in due course as there must be some lessons to be learned about how this risk was handled beyond the initial 'don't run into things' part.
 
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Lower Limit 1909 said:
I'm no oceanographer but surely that didn't travel that far in that length of time while in contact with the seabed. Given the colour it's however perfectly possible it was semi-submerged and not spotted all that time suggesting it's been a significant hazard to shipping (well boats at least) for the last few weeks. I'd hope the MAIB can shed some light on this in due course as there must be some lessons to be learned about how this risk was handled beyond the initial 'don't run into things' part.
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Yes it does seem strange that a boat supposedly on the seabed can move so far in a short space of time.

Does the MAIB cover the CIs?
 
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longjohnsilver said:
Yes it does seem strange that a boat supposedly on the seabed can move so far in a short space of time.
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Presumably because it wasnt actually on the seabed although its difficult to see how a hull with its superstructure and aft end torn off could have retained any buoyancy at all

I expect the MAIB will come to its usual demon drink conclusion which is normally a dire warning that if the skipper hadnt had that glass of wine 2 weeks before the accident it never would have happened
 
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If the aft third + engines is missing is it possible that someone other that the original salvage inspection guys went down and hacked the aft end off to recover the engines? Would they be worth anything?

Or maybe the aft end c/w with engines broke off at the wreck site and is still there and the front end drifted away and ended up on the beach.
 
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I am sure many of you know what the tides are like in this neck of the woods. Does't surprise me at all that something with lots of surface area, but relatively little density, would have been taken miles on the currents.
 
Re: Pershing 62 sinks

petem said:
It looks in remarkable condition for somethings that's been dragged 25km along the sea bed. And as others have said, how can it have had any buoyancy? I smell a rat!
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But what's the alternative? That another Pershing 62 sank 25km away within days of the CI one (it's clearly not been down there long, there's no growth on the hull) and no one noticed? Would be a hell of a coincidence.
 
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Nov 19th Boat Hits Raudiere Buoy. Issues MAYDAY.
Gets towed approx 2.5 nm west by the Pilot Boat "Rival" until it sinks 1 mile offshore from St Brelade Bay west of Noirmont in the region of Passage Rock just south of the shipping channel.
For a whole month it goes nowhere.
Dec 20th Boat is still in same place but reported to have broken up (but only after a reported 'two days of diving' by a salvage crew and the recovery of one engine and some other stuff). Did it break itself up or was it 'broken up'?
January 5th - just 16 days later it washes up 30Km away with the rear third 'chopped off'. Whether it is supposed to have gone clock wise or anti-clockwise around Jersey will probably involve doing some calculations with some charts but either way it has crossed areas with a lot of banks, considerable variations in depth and numerous rocks on the seabed. Quite an assault course at an average speed of 2Km per day making a neat circumnavigation of Jersey in the process. And it did so with little in the way of any scrapes to show for it as the only hull damage looks consistant with the initial impact.

Far too many questions to conclude at this stage that it somehow broke itself up around the time of the salvage attempt then at some point soon after that headed off at 2km per day across across a 'rugged' seabed in a large arc for the next 16 days.
 
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Additional timeline mystery without any answers yet. Given that the Pershing travelled approx. 2.5nm west afer hitting the buoy before foundering and did so reportedly under tow from a Pilot Boat (at presumably no more than 1-2 knots (max) given the relative sizes and displacement of a sinking Pershing 62) how does this reconcile with the following reports.

‘Of course the St Helier crew would have responded had they been there but they are not. The Fire and Rescue Service were on scene within 20 minutes and by then it was too far gone,’ Mr Sadler said.
Read more at https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/...ht-may-be-left-on-seabed/#ShXcmuxfIM147uKZ.99

By the time the Fire and Rescue Service arrived on scene with their inshore rescue boat, the vessel was all but completely submerged with only a small section of its bow sticking out of the water. The two crew were recovered from a life raft.
Read more at https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/...ht-may-be-left-on-seabed/#ShXcmuxfIM147uKZ.99
 
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I'd guess it broke up relatively soon after the sinking, giving it much longer to make its journey. Not looked in detail, but the salvage company saying "it's broken up" a couple of weeks ago wouldn't mean that they necessarily saw all the broken up bits. At that point this part of the hull may have been most of the way to France already.
 
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Re: Pershing 62 sinks

I guess if it's upside down and crashing about, that's a lot of force on the engine mounts that they're not designed for. Whether it's enough to seperate them from the hull though, I've no idea.
 
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It looks in remarkable condition for somethings that's been dragged 25km along the sea bed. And as others have said, how can it have had any buoyancy? I smell a rat!
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From the parts I’ve seen,was the hull foam core?
 
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