Boat in build pics (2013 Fairline Squadron 78)

[jfm]

Agreed. I don't want to drive this great thread into an area that's not applicable. All the best with the Ks!

Loving the Kahlenberg horns Piers. As luck would have it, there was a fireworks display at Cap Ferrat 2 weeks ago. At the end of these great displays, everyone toots their horn. This is actually the sole reason I got the K's. So I gave them a good blast and they were fantastic, echoing off the cliffs. Apart from a couple of 50m+ mobos also with K's, nothing came close. Everything else sounds like a fart, to be honest. They have made it onto that exclusive list of "Things I will never spec another boat without"

The tank volume and compressor catch-up are well specced, so thanks to Toby. Even if using them like crazy to celebrate a good firework show, which is more "burn rate" than they'd ever get in navigational use, I cannot get them to run out of air

 

[jfm]

Yup that thought had already occurred to me when I got the boat! I was more concerned about leaving the transfer pipe open to the aft (and lower) 3rd tank. Btw do you fill Match from both sides or one? I find that on my boat, I have to be very careful, particularly when filling from the starboard side, because the transfer pipes are not large enough to transfer fuel at the same rate as you fill, if the pump has got a high flow

There is only one hose from the delivery truck, so it has to be one side. Yes, near the end, I have to ask the driver to wait 5 minutes for the far tank to catch up, becuase these fuel pumps you get on fuel trucks are so fast. When filling at a fuel dock with a pathetic car-type nozzle, there is no problem. I have my first fuel delivery this monday - 6750 litres, yikes.

I find it helps, and you might find the same, to open the filler cap on the far tank, becuase the fuel truck pumps fuel so fast that the air vent also struggles to keep up, and a bit of air pressure builds up inside the tank, which slows the balancing process. When you open the far tank's filler, you don't half get a gush of air out of the tank

 

[Observer]

here is only one hose from the delivery truck, so it has to be one side. Yes, near the end, I have to ask the driver to wait 5 minutes for the far tank to catch up, becuase these fuel pumps you get on fuel trucks are so fast. When filling at a fuel dock with a pathetic car-type nozzle, there is no problem. I have my first fuel delivery this monday - 6750 litres, yikes.

Ouch. Hope that goes further than a day's blast from Antibes to Monaco and back!

Loved catching up with this thread again jfm. Keep on enjoying.

 

[vas]

Great stuff . Funniest thing about Ferretti plumbing though is that (iirc) they discharge the black tank ABOVE the waterline. Just lovely

I'm learning everyday!
Was about to drill a hole for the 1.5inch or something like that discharge pipe for the black water tank I've installed.

er, was planning it above waterline!

what's the problem other than staining the side where the erm liquid runs down???
Should I really have that below waterline? that means another seacock and decent access to operate it.
Tank itself is below waterline.

opinions welcomed. OK, should really post on my thread, but easy to just as well do it here, sorry J.

cheers

V.

 

[MapisM]

Should I really have that below waterline? that means another seacock and decent access to operate it.

Not necessarily, V.
You could use the same seacock which I suppose was already fitted - more than likely under the w/l - for the direct discharge of the old WC.

 

[prv]

Was about to drill a hole for the 1.5inch or something like that discharge pipe for the black water tank I've installed.

er, was planning it above waterline!

what's the problem???

The smell!

Pete

 

[BartW]

I find it helps, and you might find the same, to open the filler cap on the far tank, becuase the fuel truck pumps fuel so fast that the air vent also struggles to keep up

yes I do the same,
just had a delivery from julie's truck this morning,
do you alway's take the lo sulfer quality ?
I used to, but I might choose the higher sulfer, probably even better lubrication in my old MAN's ?
and a few cents cheaper.

 

[Danchc]

Hey

It's Friday, it's sunny (at least where I am). Can't resist the urge for another geeky question

JFM, I was wondering, with your vast experience of Fairline boats, whether you think there to be enough room on the rear deck to have a hot tub installed? With a set of steps either side, it might be a bit tight to fit one of a reasonable size, and still have walking room.

Obviously, not a necessary option for Med cruising, but not everyone wants to swim with the fishes or in salt water, and hot tubs can be cool tubs.

Ummm, also, if I could be so bold, and if others think it interesting... Was wondering if you had any pics of Match 2 at night..... If you don't mind sharing even more

 

[Forty_Two]

Looking very nice Jfm, we were the Grand Banks 42 you anchored in front of last night.

Just what I like a no fuss anchoring technique.

Paul

 

[jfm]

yes I do the same,
just had a delivery from julie's truck this morning,
do you alway's take the lo sulfer quality ?
I used to, but I might choose the higher sulfer, probably even better lubrication in my old MAN's ?
and a few cents cheaper.

I always take the low sulphur. Cat recommends it. I got a fill last week from Julie - she remembered BA from the week before She is from Corsica btw, so gave me lots of information about the island

 

[jfm]

Can't resist the urge for another geeky question

JFM, I was wondering, with your vast experience of Fairline boats, whether you think there to be enough room on the rear deck to have a hot tub installed? With a set of steps either side, it might be a bit tight to fit one of a reasonable size, and still have walking room.

Obviously, not a necessary option for Med cruising, but not everyone wants to swim with the fishes or in salt water, and hot tubs can be cool tubs.

Ummm, also, if I could be so bold, and if others think it interesting... Was wondering if you had any pics of Match 2 at night..... If you don't mind sharing even more

No worries about geeky questions!

The hot tub would have to go on the aft of the flybridge deck, and tbh while it would fit it would be a bit tight. I have no interest in hot tubs on boats, in the Med at least, so didn't even think about installing one. If Fairline put a hard top onto the s78, which is a work in progress, they will delete the mast (I expect) and the space currently occupied by the foot print of the mast will provide more space for a hot tub i think

I don't have any pics of the whole boat at night and will try to get some on forthcoming Corsica cruise, but here are a few random shots taken at the Cannes fireworks display last Sunday night...

 

[jfm]

Looking very nice Jfm, we were the Grand Banks 42 you anchored in front of last night.

Just what I like a no fuss anchoring technique.

Paul

Hi there. You mean between the islands or at the fireworks? We cogitated quite a bit on where to anchor for the fireworks (late arrivers!). Between the islands I did a bit of a repair to the anchor roller - that's why I used a snubber rope. Normally i don't use a snubber rope as I don't like them. Weather was fabulous wasn't it?

 

[Forty_Two]

Between the islands. Funny that my bow roller was making a terrible noise so I had to do the same back in la Nap to grease it.

Yes fabulous weather, been down all of July & there hasn't been a single unusable day.

 

[Forty_Two]

Ha just noticed it's page 42 in the thread!

 

[jfm]

Between the islands. Funny that my bow roller was making a terrible noise so I had to do the same back in la Nap to grease it.

Yes fabulous weather, been down all of July & there hasn't been a single unusable day.

Good stuff. I'm back in London now but flying down again thursday night and planning to cross to Corsica and do the bottom of the Island (Bonifacio, Lavezzi, etc) so I'm hoping the weather continues as is.

 

[Forty_Two]

Nice, on my visit list, only been to Calvi so far but then it takes us 12 hrs but only about 300ltrs return! Enjoy & may the Mistral not be with you...

 

[Danchc]

The hot tub would have to go on the aft of the flybridge deck, and tbh while it would fit it would be a bit tight. I have no interest in hot tubs on boats, in the Med at least, so didn't even think about installing one. If Fairline put a hard top onto the s78, which is a work in progress, they will delete the mast (I expect) and the space currently occupied by the foot print of the mast will provide more space for a hot tub i think

Hmmm, I have always thought of a hot tub on the flybridge as being a bit exposed, but maybe that's just me. I know boats like the Azimut 82 have them on the flybridge - but it is a bigger boat by something like 1.5m x 0.5m, so it has more space - though they are not right at the rear. Not sure the rear flybridge section of a 78 would take the weight, 300kg+ without water (600kg+) and 4 people(300kg)... 1.2 tonnes? As for losing the mast, It would look odd to me, unless it simply had a shorter one starting from the hardtop - we'll have to see when they show us the first pics.

Looks like you are thoroughly enjoying your time with your new boat

Thanks for the pics.

 

[slvr5r]

JFM, If you are still on this board, I was hoping you could shoot me an email. Just purchased a S78 and have some questions for you. Thanks!

Here are the first pics I have of my new Sq78 in build. I hope the forum’s appetite for boat build/refits can absorb more such pictures and I’d be grateful for further ideas and comments from this forum on the mods that are planned.

Here’s a quick history: my previous squadron 78 (build story on this thread, and I'll call her Match1 here because the new boat will also be Match and I’ll call the new boat Match 2 here), was delivered March 2011 and I had a great 2011 season on her plus some early 2012 cruises. Then some folks came along and offered a nice price, so with emotional reluctance but commercial logic I handed her over to new owners on 4th July 2012. She’s now in Sweden.

I then had to decide on a new boat. All the weighing up of pros-cons that we all do when choosing boats is too much to describe fully in this post, so maybe return to that topic another time. But in brief, I wanted a fast flybridge not a trawler, a mainstream production boat (easy to sell) with long range (that eliminated the otherwise very nice Princess 78 fly), I loved the Ferretti 750 except I couldn’t live with its flybridge or inferior stabilisers, I thought hard about the lovely and customisable Sunseeker Y80 which has no significant negatives in my books, and then there was the devil I knew namely the Fairline Squadron 78. When I factored in the very high customer service (with a smile and with fun thrown in) from all the team at Fairline’s dealer Essex Boatyards, the fact EBY is financially sound, the fact I like the Fairline factory team very much and know the boat in a technical sense very well as well as knowing how far they will go in customisation at reasonable cost, the balance tipped in favour of another Squadron 78 custom.

So Match2 went into the mould this month. Pics below. Not much detail to see yet, sorry, but exciting stuff for me nevertheless because I have been boatless all summer and been engaged in long tech discussions with Fairline about the spec of Match2. I even slipped a build slot to allow those discussions to continue. So to have something tangible now on the go seems quite a milestone for me. Match2 will be by some margin the biggest customisation Fairline have done, with considerably more mods than Match1.

I’ll explain the various mods in stages if I’m able to keep this thread updated but here’s a quick list of some of the changes planned from the standard sq78, in no particular order. I say “planned” because if anyone has mods to these mods please shout, hopefully in time to incorporate them into the build:

1. Cat C32 ACERT engines, 1622hp each. 2 x 22.5 kva Onan gensets, 100 amps each approx. Sleipner fin stabilisers like Match1. Double size watermaker (300litres/hour). Complete redesign of black tank system (I wasn’t happy with Match1’s)

2. Satin walnut interior with lots of wenge and all-wenge galley. Plus lots of white. So much darker more contemporary nightclubby interior look than Match1. No beige or cream or buttery colours anywhere on the boat. Curved furniture and panels deleted and replaced by squared shapes. Lots of furniture and cabinetry changes. A bit more wood flooring than Match1 and handmade carpets.

3. I’m thinking of having white caulked decks. What do people think? Hate ‘em? Love ‘em?

4. Extra hull windows in crew cabin and forward guest cabin

5. Custom moulding for flybridge helm again, but different from Match1’s. Also triple Recaro fly helm seats

6. Latest LED lighting, both above and below waterline . The whole boat will be LED; no incandescent lighting at all. This should reduce my battery drain when anchored in the evening sans generator. Downlighters will be the new Cantalupis, 115 off, that use the new Cree 85% CRI LED, which I hope will be nice. u/w lights will of course be Lumishore, 6 of their latest and greatest

7. Exactly same internal staircase as Match1. This was a total success and I wouldn't dream of not having it. This time all the welds will be ground out and polished though. Plus, a redesigned external staircase in similar more modern design with LED downlighting etc to funk it up

8. Twin/double conversion in both twin cabins. Match1 had this in one twin cabins not both, and on reflection I should have done both so as to accommodate all combinations of guests. Match2 will therefore have 4 x guest cabins, of which 2=doubles and 2= twins or doubles. Plus a tweaked crew cabin that will be fitted out to "owner area" standard in walnut, and can be 2 x single beds, 1x double, or (new idea) wood-partitioned to make two separate single-bed cabins (sharing one shower room). Plus a 3rd “jump seat” bed in the laundry for kids or if an extra guest turns up. So, maximum 11 beds and as much convertibility as can be done, I think.

There’s loads more detail but that’s a quick summary of the main items. I’ll get some more pics in a few weeks. It’s meant to be finished about March 2013. I’ll try to keep the build/launch/sea trial story updated. I’d be grateful for ideas on things to include in the build because I really do plan keeping this boat for a few years (3 maybe? Haha!) rather than chopping it in after a season. That’s the plan anyhow, ahem. And please give me your love ‘em/hate ‘em thoughts on white caulked decks

Anyway, here are pics…

Hull moulding 9th October with first layer of mat on the gelcoat…

Hull moulding 19 October

Pictures below show the custom additional bow cabin windows (3 not 2 each side) – the first profile pic shows the finished look. These and all the windows are frameless and bonded “auto style” to flanges in the GRP moulding

This next pic shows the deck moulding, just gelcoated

Hard to see so I’ve market it in red, an additional crew cabin window is going in transom. To help you get your bearings the square tube coming to the foreground is the passerelle tunnel..

Bow thruster tunnel integral to the hull moulding...

This next pic shows stabiliser holes moulded in, using GRP moulded tube (like bowthruster tunnel) as a former, instead of cutting a hole afterwards as they did on Match 1. They've learned some shortcuts. I think Match2 is about the 6th Squadron78 built with fin stabs (Match 1 was the first, and fwiw 3 boats have been built with Seakeeper gyros). This pic also shows the hull thickening around the stabs

More hull moulding general shots:

That’s all the pics I have for now. I’ll try to update this as the build progresses and hopefully it will get a bit more glamorous

Hmmm, I have always thought of a hot tub on the flybridge as being a bit exposed, but maybe that's just me. I know boats like the Azimut 82 have them on the flybridge - but it is a bigger boat by something like 1.5m x 0.5m, so it has more space - though they are not right at the rear. Not sure the rear flybridge section of a 78 would take the weight, 300kg+ without water (600kg+) and 4 people(300kg)... 1.2 tonnes? As for losing the mast, It would look odd to me, unless it simply had a shorter one starting from the hardtop - we'll have to see when they show us the first pics.

Looks like you are thoroughly enjoying your time with your new boat

Thanks for the pics.

 

[silverdee]

slv ping me an email if you want james.maxey@expresssolicitors.co.uk and i will forward it on to jfm.

 

[Mr Googler]

slv ping me an email if you want james.maxey@expresssolicitors.co.uk and i will forward it on to jfm.

glad to see your still on here. Please pass on our hopes to JFM that he will return to the forum soon.

greatly missed ?