Blue water boat up to 32 ft.

[oldvarnish]

Victoria 30?

Agreed.

 

[sailorman]

Difficult one to fulfill esp the cutter and no older than 15 years old. As Tranona states Vancouver 32 is your best bet but they stopped being built in 1990 - becoming the V34 thereafter - essentially the same boat with a bigger cockpit. Designed as a cutter from the outset. Well built enough to ignore the not over 15 years old criteria. Not sure if Northshore will still make to order only.

Who ever would trust monies handed to Northshore after the Southerly debacle

 

[Blueboatman]

The question has been asked
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...vice-Victoria-30-v-Halmatic-30-v-Nicholson-31

 

[armchairsailor]

PS32 if you like the trad look and a double-ender.

 

[E39mad]

The Vancouver 28 is very similar in its stats to the Victoria 30, beam, displacement etc. The Vancouver however is designed and built as a cutter. Other yachts can be arranged to be cutter headed retrospectively but putting the extra rigging in that is necessary to stop the inner stay from pumping in a blow is both expensive and in some cases difficult or impossible.

 

[Wilson]

I agree with Vancouver 32. Ticks all your boxes i would say and very nice too.
Good luck.

 

[photodog]

Vancouver 28 or 32 seems bang on... A nice ip32 might fit the box, but a bit slow I would have thought.. How about a Barbican? But I think the criteria is a bit narrow... If I wanted fast single handed safe modernish offshore around that size I would in the first instance be looking at the starlight 35.

 

[aluijten]

I'm looking for a sailing boat up to 32 ft., still in production (or no older than 15 years) with tiller and long keel or long fin. Preferably a cutter with a small cockpit. My plan is sailing long distances single-handedly and reasonably fast (but cruising, not racing) even in bad weather.

Can you recommend any boat with these characteristics?

Thanks.

This one may fit the blill:

http://www.de-kloet.nl/english/midget31.html

I saw it some years ago at an exhibition, seemded very well build


Arno

 

[Scarboroughsloop]

How about an Island Packet 32. Huge for its size as it has to fit Yanks in it.

 

[sailorman]

How about an Island Packet 32. Huge for its size as it has to fit Yanks in it.

The OP might like to sail in a boat that sails

 

[Blueboatman]

The OP might care to come back with more info

 

[Tranona]

It is his first (and only) post so as a new member there will be a delay while his posts go through the mod for approval.

 

[Blueboatman]

Of course, ta.

 

[Biscayan]

Sorry for late reply, I've been sailing these days. I'll try to answer everybody.

Contessa 32 or Sadler 32 or Rival 32.

Any of them in good condition could be interesting. A new CO32 is very expensive (for me).

There's a nice Dudley Dix 32 on Apolloduck but sadly it has hydraulic steering.

I've been able to find her, but I don't like hydraulic steering.

Cornish Crabber, 26', but a bit pricey.
EDIT: Just looked at the link in Galago's footer

The Cornish isn't what I was looking for and the Helford Cutter is made of wood, isn't she?

Might be worth looking at US boats for the OP.
If the 32ft criteria is actually about price range ( cos when you are cruising and at anchor bigger can be cheaper).

I agree with you. Sailing and at anchor they're cheaper, but I can't be sailing all the year and the marina is much more expensive for a 36.

What about a Mystery 30 or Mystery 35?

I don't like the hull design.

The nearest you will get in UK is a late Vancouver 32 or one of the recently built Contessa 32s.

It sounds like you are describing a Vancouver 28...
I think you can still buy on new too. Expensive though

Yes, they're nice and still in production.

Might I ask,why 'still in production"?

In keeping with some of the other queries, why under 15 years old, why under 32 feet and why still in production?

I was looking for a relatively new boat because I've no time to restore an old one, and it's expensive if this is made by a professional.
I want a 32 footer because I think she's length enough and easier to sail single-handedly.

The OP mentioned that he wanted to sail reasonably quickly. Just about all boats mentioned so far are extremely slow, albeit seaworthy. A HR 34...

Yes, I like to sail fast... but I prefer to sail seaworthyly first. I can't choose both of them, I prefer seaworthy.
The HR are always a good election, although the 34 is a fin with spade rudder.

nic 32 mkx11

Victoria 30?

Nice if they're in good condition.

Dana 24
Com-Pac 27?

Dana 24, maybe too small?
I don't know what about the Com-Pac will sail.

Vancouver 32 but they stopped being built in 1990. Well built enough to ignore the not over 15 years old criteria.

I totally agree with. I can confirm this.

I wouldn't shy away from an older boat, you can use the money saved on refitting her to more modern standards.

I think you'll spend more or less the same amount of money (if you can't do the work by yourself), and you'll have an old boat renewed.

A nice ip32 might fit the box, but a bit slow I would have thought.. How about a Barbican?

Yes. High ballast ratio for the Barbican 30.

http://www.de-kloet.nl/english/midget31.htmlvery well build

But I don't know how she will sail.

Thank you very much for your answers.

 

[Neil_Y]

You said long keel or long fin? that includes all current production boats. The seaworthy keel type/displacement debate will go on but you will find that any of the fin keel'd yachts could be seaworthy for ocean passages. The detail is in looking at the type and build of things like rudder fixings, keel fixings and rigging/rigsize.

It will also be (even for a 15 year old boat) down to how well it's been maintained/used in its life.

Best way is to go and look at as many boat types as you can in the flesh, you might change your mind (I did)

I was looking for a Rival 38 and bought a Bavaria, it was better on all counts. However a Bavaria 320 is a bit outside your budget.

 

[Little Five]

The Nicholson 31 is a very well built boat and designed for blue water cruising. i know an australian couple who are in their 7th year cruising in one. The lady concerned told me she could handle any piece of equipment on the boat in any weather without having to call her husband. Having bought the boat their shakedown cruise comprised of a passage 300 miles south from Perth, turn left for 1500 miles of southern ocean. They said the boat passed every test with flying colours. Read what they print on yachtsnet about it.

 

[E39mad]

You said long keel or long fin? that includes all current production boats.

Not sure I agree with this - current production boats tend to be deep fin. Long fin or long keel tend to provide directional stability that a conventional deep fin cannot sustain. Long will also use less power on an autopilot or more likely to work with vane steering.

Also long keel/fin tend to have an encapsulated keel which are favoured in case of hitting underwater objects. Modern fin keels tend to have unprotected spade rudders which again is a debate on whether it is ideal for ocean cruising.

 

[halcyon]

I was looking for a relatively new boat because I've no time to restore an old one, and it's expensive if this is made by a professional.
I want a 32 footer because I think she's length enough and easier to sail single-handedly.
.

But why exclude an older boat, the work may already have been done ? you also have a known track record for the boat.

Brian

 

[robmcg]

But why exclude an older boat, the work may already have been done ? you also have a known track record for the boat.

Brian

I totally agree. The OP's criteria is somewhat self limiting.

 

[doug748]

I totally agree. The OP's criteria is somewhat self limiting.

I don't think it is unreasonable for the OP to set his own criteria.

If he specified on old boat. he would have been advised to buy a newer one.

If he asked for a lightweight boat, he would be told that displacement is the thing.

If he had specified a 45 footer, he would be advised to get smaller......or a catamaran.....or a cottage on the Isle of Wight.



The stand out favoourite must be the Vancouver 32, though the 34 has more room.......Bloody hell I am doing it now.