Looking at the responses to your question, I note that ignorance seems to go hand in hand with unpleasant abrasiveness This trend has been also observed in the debate about sailing boats versus (and why `versus`?) sailing boats, in the sneering references to `Royal` clubs and in many of the threads where an opportunity is given to those, who for reasons best known to themselves, are only too ready to display personal characteristics that keep them unacceptable to the clubs and associations at which they sneer. Or is it just me being old fashioned about liking pleasant people?
Hey Nipper thanks for the link and great to see you're a greenie/ How'd you do that?
Got me thinking.
I'd like one of those pretty blue flags, from somewhere obscure. Do I actually have to join or can I just buy the flag and if anyone asks tell em I'm a member. But don't they look good. Guess the white one would be pushing it a bit?
Who checks anyway, both in theory and practice. Has anyone with a bluey ever been asked by "someone in authority" if they're entitled to fly (wear) it?
PLease, Please, why is there all this utter crap on these, forums about red, blue defaced red and blue ensigns, why cant people be left in peace to fly whatever ensign they are entitled to, suerly all this snobbery and reverse snobbery is uneccessary, after all we are all boaters arent we? and all the motor/sailing boat stuff aswell! I for one have a motor sailer and so I dont fit in any camp and am not a membewr of any yacht club, but get a little fed up with all this garbage, thank you gentlemen.
There is nothing that people on Scuttlebutt like doing quite so much as arguing about flag etiquette.
It's quite pointless asking for what is perfectly simple information, which is that you have to (a) belong to a club which holds an Admiralty Warrant to use a blue ensign (often 'defaced') as a club flag; and (b) apply to the club for a permit. To get a permit, the owner(s) must all be Club members and British citizens; the yacht must be British registered, Part 1 or SSR; and must be above a certain size (21ft or 2½ reg. tons, from memory). The blue ensign can only be flown when the owner is aboard or 'in control' of the yacht, and in conjunction with the yacht club burgee. The permit lasts 5 years and is automatically cancelled if the yacht is sold. There are other ways to be allowed to fly a blue ensign but they are largely irrelevant to a private person.
As there hasn't been a Blue Ensign thread for a while, we are grateful to you for the opportunity for a good bitch!
Not being British i am always flabbergasted by your fierce discussions about and sensitivity on flags, ensigns and burgees.
And ho now, dont give me anything about not having traditions and such or i'll be forced to remind you of a certain chain near Chatham.
But seriously, when i am coming -which perhaps i should not after the above- what textile should i fly and where besides the Dutch national on the stern.
Of the immortal "Sod's law of sailing", where Lassitude flew a bluey with crossed spears on the fly. Uncle Adrian's advice, if ever questioned, was to reply, "Royal Borneo and Northern Celebes, old boy."
(If anyone has a copy to hand, I'm happy to be corrected on details)