Peter
Member
Who is entitled to fly a blue ensign?
Blue ensign?
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Twister_Ken
Well-known member
Porn stars.
Those who ignore speed limits.
Anyone who knows exactly how many drops of Angostura Bitters it takes to make a decent pink gin.
And members of clubs that are entitled to use a Bluey. Usually their title start with Royal. Believe the cheapest way to get a bluey is to join the Cruising Association.
Those who ignore speed limits.
Anyone who knows exactly how many drops of Angostura Bitters it takes to make a decent pink gin.
And members of clubs that are entitled to use a Bluey. Usually their title start with Royal. Believe the cheapest way to get a bluey is to join the Cruising Association.
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Guest
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Calm down Ken. Do I detect a hint of jealousy?
Twister_Ken
Well-known member
Not jealousy - reverse snobbery!
I'm entitled (through the CA), but I wouldn't be seen dead in one.
I believe, they are UK waters only, and some Johnny Foreigners can cut up rough if they spot a bluey.
I'm entitled (through the CA), but I wouldn't be seen dead in one.
I believe, they are UK waters only, and some Johnny Foreigners can cut up rough if they spot a bluey.
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Found this on the web but how much authority it carries is open to question.
http://www.geocities.com/boatingflags/ukstate.htm
The notion of 'defacing' state ensigns is a little distasteful but it's all grist to the whirling ensign mill. Any the wiser?
Nipper
http://www.geocities.com/boatingflags/ukstate.htm
The notion of 'defacing' state ensigns is a little distasteful but it's all grist to the whirling ensign mill. Any the wiser?
Nipper
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Oi Nipper ! How come you get to fly a defaced.....
green on this board ?
Do the rest of us peasants have to apply to IPC for the privilege ?
green on this board ?
Do the rest of us peasants have to apply to IPC for the privilege ?
allanc
Member
Looking at the responses to your question, I note that ignorance seems to go hand in hand with unpleasant abrasiveness This trend has been also observed in the debate about sailing boats versus (and why `versus`?) sailing boats, in the sneering references to `Royal` clubs and in many of the threads where an opportunity is given to those, who for reasons best known to themselves, are only too ready to display personal characteristics that keep them unacceptable to the clubs and associations at which they sneer. Or is it just me being old fashioned about liking pleasant people?
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Guest
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Hey Nipper thanks for the link and great to see you're a greenie/ How'd you do that?
Got me thinking.
I'd like one of those pretty blue flags, from somewhere obscure. Do I actually have to join or can I just buy the flag and if anyone asks tell em I'm a member. But don't they look good. Guess the white one would be pushing it a bit?
Who checks anyway, both in theory and practice. Has anyone with a bluey ever been asked by "someone in authority" if they're entitled to fly (wear) it?
Got me thinking.
I'd like one of those pretty blue flags, from somewhere obscure. Do I actually have to join or can I just buy the flag and if anyone asks tell em I'm a member. But don't they look good. Guess the white one would be pushing it a bit?
Who checks anyway, both in theory and practice. Has anyone with a bluey ever been asked by "someone in authority" if they're entitled to fly (wear) it?
ccscott49
Active member
PLease, Please, why is there all this utter crap on these, forums about red, blue defaced red and blue ensigns, why cant people be left in peace to fly whatever ensign they are entitled to, suerly all this snobbery and reverse snobbery is uneccessary, after all we are all boaters arent we? and all the motor/sailing boat stuff aswell! I for one have a motor sailer and so I dont fit in any camp and am not a membewr of any yacht club, but get a little fed up with all this garbage, thank you gentlemen.
billmacfarlane
Active member
HEAR HEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!! NM !!!!!!
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AndrewB
Well-known member
If you gentlemen really feel that way ...
... why the @#!* are you bothering to open a thread starting 'Blue Ensigns'.
Come now, reality check needed.
... why the @#!* are you bothering to open a thread starting 'Blue Ensigns'.
Come now, reality check needed.
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Guest
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EURO
So does this mean I can fly my European Community (with corner Union Jack) flag from my stern without risking a fine?!
So does this mean I can fly my European Community (with corner Union Jack) flag from my stern without risking a fine?!
Peter
Member
wish I had not asked
AndrewB
Well-known member
Don\'t worry about it!
There is nothing that people on Scuttlebutt like doing quite so much as arguing about flag etiquette.
It's quite pointless asking for what is perfectly simple information, which is that you have to (a) belong to a club which holds an Admiralty Warrant to use a blue ensign (often 'defaced') as a club flag; and (b) apply to the club for a permit. To get a permit, the owner(s) must all be Club members and British citizens; the yacht must be British registered, Part 1 or SSR; and must be above a certain size (21ft or 2½ reg. tons, from memory). The blue ensign can only be flown when the owner is aboard or 'in control' of the yacht, and in conjunction with the yacht club burgee. The permit lasts 5 years and is automatically cancelled if the yacht is sold. There are other ways to be allowed to fly a blue ensign but they are largely irrelevant to a private person.
As there hasn't been a Blue Ensign thread for a while, we are grateful to you for the opportunity for a good bitch!
There is nothing that people on Scuttlebutt like doing quite so much as arguing about flag etiquette.
It's quite pointless asking for what is perfectly simple information, which is that you have to (a) belong to a club which holds an Admiralty Warrant to use a blue ensign (often 'defaced') as a club flag; and (b) apply to the club for a permit. To get a permit, the owner(s) must all be Club members and British citizens; the yacht must be British registered, Part 1 or SSR; and must be above a certain size (21ft or 2½ reg. tons, from memory). The blue ensign can only be flown when the owner is aboard or 'in control' of the yacht, and in conjunction with the yacht club burgee. The permit lasts 5 years and is automatically cancelled if the yacht is sold. There are other ways to be allowed to fly a blue ensign but they are largely irrelevant to a private person.
As there hasn't been a Blue Ensign thread for a while, we are grateful to you for the opportunity for a good bitch!
PeteMcK
New member
Cheaper still...
Saw them on the rack at the chandlers for 14.95. (Maybe they had white ones under the counter - must ask next time the shop's empty.)
Saw them on the rack at the chandlers for 14.95. (Maybe they had white ones under the counter - must ask next time the shop's empty.)
ccscott49
Active member
Re: EURO
Is the european flag with a union flag in one corner an official ensign of this great country, No! Then dont fly it!
Is the european flag with a union flag in one corner an official ensign of this great country, No! Then dont fly it!
ianwright
New member
Who? Me.That's who. There may be others, I don't think it's that exclusive.
IanW.
Vertue 203, Patience
IanW.
Vertue 203, Patience
chas
New member
Re: Don\'t worry about it!
I believe that, technically, a boat has to be registered part 1 or SSR to wear any UK Ensign.
I believe that, technically, a boat has to be registered part 1 or SSR to wear any UK Ensign.
steffen
New member
Not being British i am always flabbergasted by your fierce discussions about and sensitivity on flags, ensigns and burgees.
And ho now, dont give me anything about not having traditions and such or i'll be forced to remind you of a certain chain near Chatham.
But seriously, when i am coming -which perhaps i should not after the above- what textile should i fly and where besides the Dutch national on the stern.
And ho now, dont give me anything about not having traditions and such or i'll be forced to remind you of a certain chain near Chatham.
But seriously, when i am coming -which perhaps i should not after the above- what textile should i fly and where besides the Dutch national on the stern.
Twister_Ken
Well-known member
I\'m reminded
Of the immortal "Sod's law of sailing", where Lassitude flew a bluey with crossed spears on the fly. Uncle Adrian's advice, if ever questioned, was to reply, "Royal Borneo and Northern Celebes, old boy."
(If anyone has a copy to hand, I'm happy to be corrected on details)
Of the immortal "Sod's law of sailing", where Lassitude flew a bluey with crossed spears on the fly. Uncle Adrian's advice, if ever questioned, was to reply, "Royal Borneo and Northern Celebes, old boy."
(If anyone has a copy to hand, I'm happy to be corrected on details)
