Blue ensign?
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xyachtdave
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Nostrodamus
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Ah, the movement has started. I am just awaiting my new biggest I could find one (red).
Babylon
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Wear, not fly
I'm tired of all this nonsense.
One wears an ensign (like one wears gunties) whereas one flies a flag (like one flies Easyjet rather than BA).
Particular, or what?
I'm tired of all this nonsense.
One wears an ensign (like one wears gunties) whereas one flies a flag (like one flies Easyjet rather than BA).
Particular, or what?
lenseman
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And it has to be Part 1 registered, you cannot Part III register (SSR) and apply for a 'Blue' whether defaced or undefaced.
A1Sailor
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And it has to be Part 1 registered, you cannot Part III register (SSR) and apply for a 'Blue' whether defaced or undefaced.
I am a former Royal Naval Officer and current RNSA member. My yacht is on the SSR, and I have a warrant issued by the RNSA to fly an undefaced blue ensign.
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lenseman
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I was told when I applied, and the form quite clearly states Part 1 which entails measurement etc. I have the form and was told, when asked that it has to be Part 1. I will pop into the RNSA Haslar office when I can and ask them about the discrepancy, you on SSR and the form saying Part 1?
A1Sailor
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I was told when I applied, and the form quite clearly states Part 1 which entails measurement etc. I have the form and was told, when asked that it has to be Part 1. I will pop into the RNSA Haslar office when I can and ask them about the discrepancy, you on SSR and the form saying Part 1?
First (1986) and third (current - 2012) boats SSR, second (2003-2008) Part 1. RNSA warrant for all three. Current boat went on SSR 2 months ago, and warrant issued thereafter.
Tanqueray
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A1Sailor
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Relaxion of entry requirements would seem to be the norm in the case of Scab-Lifters
Passing Gas was much more fun!
maxi77
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I was told when I applied, and the form quite clearly states Part 1 which entails measurement etc. I have the form and was told, when asked that it has to be Part 1. I will pop into the RNSA Haslar office when I can and ask them about the discrepancy, you on SSR and the form saying Part 1?
The current webpage clearly allows bot Prt 1 and SSR
http://www.rnsa.net/Sections/Notices.aspx?SectionID=36
How long ago did you ask?
wotayottie
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Of what?
RestlessL
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I was told when I applied, and the form quite clearly states Part 1 which entails measurement etc. I have the form and was told, when asked that it has to be Part 1. I will pop into the RNSA Haslar office when I can and ask them about the discrepancy, you on SSR and the form saying Part 1?
from RNSA Handbook 2011 (p13)
Scheme For Authorising The Wearing of Special Ensigns By Yachts
Since 1st April 1985 a General Warrant empowered the Flag Officers and Committee of each privileged club to issue Permits to members whose yachts satisfy the qualifying conditions:
a. Yachts registered under the Merchant Shipping Act 1894 (Part 1 Register) which measure not less than 2 tons gross.
b. Yachts entered on the Small Ships Register (SSR Part III) of not less than 7m overall length.
Litotes
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Not being British i am always flabbergasted by your fierce discussions about and sensitivity on flags, ensigns and burgees.
You are not the only one whose gast is flabbered, Steffan.
Bear in mind, however, that this silliness is really just a kneejerk peculiar to this forum. In the real world (and on every other British forum I know of) it is a complete non-issue.
You are not the only one whose gast is flabbered, Steffan.
Bear in mind, however, that this silliness is really just a kneejerk peculiar to this forum. In the real world (and on every other British forum I know of) it is a complete non-issue.
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awol
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There is another side to privileged ensigns. Anyone who wears one has a responsibility to behave in a manner commensurate with their membership of the warrant granting organisation/club and is open to censure or even removal of membership for any behaviour deemed by their peers to be unacceptable.
So if you feel the behaviour, or even seamanship, of a privileged ensign wearer is less than you would wish, all you have to do is drop a line to the relevant organisation and I can assure you it will be dealt with seriously.
So if you feel the behaviour, or even seamanship, of a privileged ensign wearer is less than you would wish, all you have to do is drop a line to the relevant organisation and I can assure you it will be dealt with seriously.
Talbot
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Not entirely true. Most blue ensign warrants are for a defaced version, but there are a very few clubs that are also allowed to fly a non-defaced blue ensign - The Royal Thames is a good example.
If you are flying a blue ensign then you also have to fly the qualifying club burgee, and the RNSA one is quite distinctive.
I am proud of my military service, and thus fly my blue ensign (with RNSA burgee) with pride.
A1Sailor
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Not entirely true. Most blue ensign warrants are for a defaced version, but there are a very few clubs that are also allowed to fly a non-defaced blue ensign - The Royal Thames is a good example.
If you are flying a blue ensign then you also have to fly the qualifying club burgee, and the RNSA one is quite distinctive.
I am proud of my military service, and thus fly my blue ensign (with RNSA burgee) with pride.
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dancrane
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As one with no technical right to show any but the humblest ensign, I have to say that if wearers of blues/whites etc can be relied upon ALWAYS to show admirable conventional courtesy and seamanship, I'd positively doff my cap when they go sluicing past...
Trouble occurs, and grudging resentment starts, when ensigns are worn by a yacht with some young twit at the wheel, in temporary command and not closely overseen by the rightful, responsible skipper...
...just like over-confident friends of the management, queue-jumping at restaurants/official events. A recognised, restrained figure who knows how to behave, can always rely on respect. But somebody sneaking in under their banner, only earns intense, widespread dislike.
Trouble occurs, and grudging resentment starts, when ensigns are worn by a yacht with some young twit at the wheel, in temporary command and not closely overseen by the rightful, responsible skipper...
...just like over-confident friends of the management, queue-jumping at restaurants/official events. A recognised, restrained figure who knows how to behave, can always rely on respect. But somebody sneaking in under their banner, only earns intense, widespread dislike.
Athene V30
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Not entirely true. Most blue ensign warrants are for a defaced version, but there are a very few clubs that are also allowed to fly a non-defaced blue ensign - The Royal Thames is a good example.
If you are flying a blue ensign then you also have to fly the qualifying club burgee, and the RNSA one is quite distinctive.
I am proud of my military service, and thus fly my blue ensign (with RNSA burgee) with pride.
+2
Particularly proud when I had balls on the burgee and kicked off the 75th anniversary cruise in 2010
