BIG TROUBLE

if left in sump possibility of breaking up and small particles blocking oilways,think of boat in seaway pipe hits crank breaks up ,look what happens when impeller breaks in coolant pump.pehaps you can jack engine u p enough to drop sump.
 
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Why don't you phone the local dealer, tell him what you've done .......

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Beg/borrow/steal a very fine (Small) packing extractor if the tube is still inside dipstick hole/tube. If not I would do as others have suggested and remove the sump. Time plus inconvience is cheaper than a wrecked engine.
 
Cut the head off a self tapping screw and weld the thread part on to a length of welding wire. Screw it into the end of the plastic pipe and withdrew if your lucky. Don't start the engine, someone I know did the same on a Yanmar 10hp and it ended up wrapped around the crankshaft.
 
If Chimps can get grubs out of holes in trees with a bit of stick - you can get a plastic tube out a hole!

Assuming the tube is still in the dipstick bore, get a thin flat flexible stick like a lollipop stick and get it down past the plastic. (Taking care not to drop it in too) Now insert another stick at the other side of the first, flat stick, making sure that the new one is thick enough to force the flat one onto the plastic tube to wedge and crush the tube against the bore. (an out of round one might be best as it can be slid down easily and then twisted through 90 degrees to apply the pressure) Now carefully draw the whole lot out.
Vary the details to suit the scenario.
 
Because there are great big lumps of metal called con rods and a crankshaft flailing around, if the bit of coiled wire is hit by any of these you will be looking at a new engine!
Stu
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if it is still in the dipstick pipe then the others are right, you need a threaded thingy on the end of a bit of welding rod or somesuch, carefully thread it in to the offending tube and draw it out carefully, are you sure its a plastic bit of pipe, the reason I ask is that the Pela one is actually a bit of outside bowden cable, a coiled piece of steel, covered in a plastic sleeve
 
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just leave it in the sump it will not do any harm,depending on the type of plastic it will sink to the bottom or just float on the oil,un-less the engine is over filled with oil it will be well clear of the crankshaft,if you over fill it to the point where the oil hits the crankshaft then frothing will take place and damage the engine anyway
 
Each to their own, I would want to remove it rather than leave it in as with my luck it would only cause an issue just at the worse time such as rough seas.

I think I would look at using a probe and some superglue or a glue gun to find a simple way to remove it.
 
Another vote for removing it rather than running the risk of worse trouble later.

If it is still in the dipstick tube, I'd try to fish it out from there. All of the methods suggested would be worth trying. I might also try fine welding wire with a small hook turned in the bottom end.

If it's in the sump I'd be tryin gto fish it out through the drain hole before I tried to remove the sump. (If removing it is difficult, think about getting it back on!)

Best of luck! Let us know how you get on.
 
I think you are in FAIRLY BIG TROUBLE!!!!

Sometimes you simply have to bite the bullet and take drastic action. You could cut a hole in the side of the sump (above the oil level if poss.) with a hole cutter (25mm dia) and fish out the tube. Then your new problem is how to seal the hole Ideally you could weld a patch over it but a patch with self-tappers and epoxy would probably last for years.
A friend once winterised his engine and put an oily rag in the inlet manifold.Yes, you are ahead of me------in the spring he started up and sucked the whole issue into the engine thus destroying it. I only tell you this to give you a sense of perspective. Good Luck!!!
 
If its a pela its a piece of outer bowden cable, ie coiled wire covered in plastic, if its stuck in the dip stick tube and he turns the engine over there is a good chance that the crank will twat it, if it has gone in to the sump there is still a chance it can move and the crank can twat it, when the boat heels or hobby horses the engine is put in to different positions as well!! Therefore the bit of foreign stuff can move as well, I certainly wouldnt leave it in!! I stand by my previous post
Stu
 
I would weld a (wood)screw, minus its head, to the end of a 5 mm round steel bar and carefully stick that in the dipstick tube.
Try to grip the plastic tube by turning the screw and if you are lucky you will be able to extract the plastic tube.

Sorry, no British brain, but Dutch, hope it works,

Good luck,
Theo.
 
Plenty have supplied you with a variety of answers - now its your turn to accept the challenge and try one or more of the proposed solutions. Let us know which one - if any - works.

I don't think anyone is going to come up with a "magic bullet"!
 
If it's plastic intended for the job, it should be fairly hydro-carbon proof. If you have some more of it, chop off some small lumps and put a piece in a series of unpleasant liquids like acetone, xylene, etc.. See what weakens it fastest.

But we do have a resident chemist, who is probably looking up the answer for you. (or maybe he is failing to react).

I would not leave it in the sump. It could get chopped up into unhelpful oil-passage blocking pieces.

If some of it is still in the dip-stick tube, I would try an air pressure line into the oil vent tube to pressurise the sump. But think about how you are going to catch whatever comes up the dip-stick tube in a hurry.
 
I wouldn't leave it there, one day it will get caught up or degrade/break up and block an oil way.
As suggested I would cut through the dipstick pipe leaving enough to fit a sleeve on later and try to get it out then using all the methods advised so far, don't rush it!!!
The idea of cutting a hole in the sump side seems worth thinking about if you have access, sealing it after should be no problem with a "thin plate sandwich".
Else it's engine up and off with the pan.
[--word removed--] happens and if it's any consolation I'm sure all the forum readers will take extra care when doing oil changes, I will fit a collar on the plastic pipe so it can't happen to me!
Best of luck and please let us know how you get on, thanks.
 
I'd not be too worrried about clogging oilways, I can't see how it could be macerated small enough to get through the oil filter.

I predict the most likely outcome of leaving where it is, is in decreasing order of possibiity:
1. nothing happens
2. gets chopped small enough to get taken up and pass into the oil filter where it will remain (slight chance of increasing oil velocity to the point of collapsing the filter)
3. somehow gets wrapped around a the crank between the big end and a crank arm - and might obstruct il flow out the big end bearing. but I further predict that a wrap would result in more chopping, and we're back to scenario 1 or 2 or even 3 again.
4. Worst case scenario - as far as I can envisiage - is that it gets repeatedly thrown against a hot cylinder wall and leaves traces of plastic melted and smeared thereon - to be scraped up by the piston rings = potential for damage. This is unlikely as any surface hot enough to melt the plastic would surely degrade the oil.

I doubt that it will dissolve in a month of Sundays.
 
Another idea for you.....re-post this in the 'Motor Boat' section
 
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