BlueSkyNick
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I agree with this. Don't panic, Captain Mannaring!
Gordon only just reached hurricane wind speeds and will drop away to very little by the time it reaches mainland Europe.... so Simon says, anyway !
Best way to tie to a pontoon in heavy weather?
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I agree with this. Don't panic, Captain Mannaring!
Gordon only just reached hurricane wind speeds and will drop away to very little by the time it reaches mainland Europe.... so Simon says, anyway !
BlueSkyNick
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Should that be
- take the boat
- the boats papers
- the boat's papers
- the boats' papers (if he has a tender as well)
?
little_roundtop
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Flippin' eck! Best leave the papers then. And the various boats.
Blue5
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Grehan
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From my experience in only a minor 'event' in Marina Bay, Gibraltar . . . have a look at adjacent boats' lines. I ended up at 02:00hrs making emergency 'arrangements' on a bucking and rolling yacht next door that was threatening to come (even more) loose and bash me. Hadn't been anyone on board for weeks. My boat was actually pretty ok - I had surge springs and rubber thingies and every line sensibly deployed.
machurley22
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I was aboard the good ship Silkie when this happened last year.
The wind peaked at 60-70 kts with gusts recorded of 100. Fortunately I was bows into it but lots of long stretchy warps with lots of chafe protection worked for me.
Incidentally that's the very dedicated marina staff at Dunstaffnage you can see on the foredeck securing a sail that had come loose.
The wind peaked at 60-70 kts with gusts recorded of 100. Fortunately I was bows into it but lots of long stretchy warps with lots of chafe protection worked for me.
Incidentally that's the very dedicated marina staff at Dunstaffnage you can see on the foredeck securing a sail that had come loose.
Wansworth
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Hope all goes well.....just watch your fingers.Probably come to nothing.My only advice from experience is deploy longest ropes possible and assume the pntoon is tied to the boat.
dratsea
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Agree prepare, lines and papers (in grab bag/pub), agree stay (yes better at sea but leave into a hurricaine?) Winds should go SW/W/N so need more than one extra line. Put out all lines and all anchors at full reach but leave on bottom until needed. Your biggest danger is the other yachts/pontoons who have not prepared/stayed so leaving for the pub not best plan.
But hope it will blow out, hope any headed south are aware but put up a post in case that helps. Please keep us up to date.
Good luck,
J
But hope it will blow out, hope any headed south are aware but put up a post in case that helps. Please keep us up to date.
Good luck,
J
dslittle
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I know where I would rather be!!
Yes I remember a bit of a blow in Gib a few years ago, a few pontoons came adrift and they closed the Marina - you survived OK...
On another note Mark, make sure that you secure your foresail and don't just rely on the sheets around it. Saw a dozen foresails flog themselves to bits in above mentioned blow.
Nostrodamus
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As predicted Gordon is starting to fizzle out somewhat but it is still worth keeping an eye on.
What this thread does show is that very quickly you can draw on the experience of others to get some excellent advice albeit conflicting in some points.
It makes you think about what you have done and what can be done and show that you have to watch the weather even if tied up in a marina.
The only thing I haven't got is the Gimp mask and apple in the mouth but I am working on it.
I have learnt some valuable things and hopefully others have too.
One day it will happen and hopefully I will be fully prepared... in the pub of course.
Thank you for all your contributions and finally, I hope all those in the Azores are fine.
What this thread does show is that very quickly you can draw on the experience of others to get some excellent advice albeit conflicting in some points.
It makes you think about what you have done and what can be done and show that you have to watch the weather even if tied up in a marina.
The only thing I haven't got is the Gimp mask and apple in the mouth but I am working on it.
I have learnt some valuable things and hopefully others have too.
One day it will happen and hopefully I will be fully prepared... in the pub of course.
Thank you for all your contributions and finally, I hope all those in the Azores are fine.
fireball
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Personally I can't see why you'd have papers for the boat to read - and if you did, it's a bit mean taking them away isn't it? What else is the boat going to do?! Although I guess you could leave the Nintendo DS for it to have a play with ...
Highland Bear
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Personally I can't see why you'd have papers for the boat to read - and if you did, it's a bit mean taking them away isn't it? What else is the boat going to do?! Although I guess you could leave the Nintendo DS for it to have a play with ...
No need fireball, the boat will be too busy trying to work out where to put the apostrophe!
KellysEye
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We've been in storm force winds on a pontoon in Trinidad and what we did was double up all lines, bow, stern lines and fore and aft springs. Then we put out an anchor at 30 degrees off the stern on the opposite side of the boat to the pontoon to hold the stern off.
MM5AHO
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Looks stern to wind?
Generator pointing to stern, wave direction seems to indicate wind astern?
Did you mean stern into it?
I think some people do too little about springs, stopping the forward aft movement, and rely too much on bow and stern ropes direct to pontoon.
I rather have quite tight springs, and somewhat loose bow and stern ropes. Means bow and stern rope stopp excessive slew, but the springs take the for and aft movement out.
Generator pointing to stern, wave direction seems to indicate wind astern?
Did you mean stern into it?
I was aboard the good ship Silkie when this happened last year.
The wind peaked at 60-70 kts with gusts recorded of 100. Fortunately I was bows into it but lots of long stretchy warps with lots of chafe protection worked for me.
Incidentally that's the very dedicated marina staff at Dunstaffnage you can see on the foredeck securing a sail that had come loose.
I think some people do too little about springs, stopping the forward aft movement, and rely too much on bow and stern ropes direct to pontoon.
I rather have quite tight springs, and somewhat loose bow and stern ropes. Means bow and stern rope stopp excessive slew, but the springs take the for and aft movement out.
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machurley22
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Hebridean Mist pictured was stern to it but Silkie was facing t'other way. Sorry if I wasn't very clear.
Clyde_Wanderer
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Nostrodamus
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Thank you but apart from a little swell we had nothing.
It would appear the Hurricane went North and hit Essex
ESSEX HURRICANE APPEAL
You may have heard of yesterday's storm damage in the UK which affected Essex.
Locally it was referred to as Hurricane Shazza and hit Essex in the early hours of Friday with its epicentre in Basildon.
Victims were seen wandering around aimlessly, muttering "Faaackinell".
The hurricane decimated the area, causing approximately £30 worth of damage.
Several priceless collections of mementos from Majorca and the Costa Del Sol were damaged beyond repair.
Three areas of historic burnt out cars were disturbed and many locals were woken well before their benefit giros arrived.
One resident - Tracy Sharon Smith, a 15-year-old mother of 5, said, "It was such a shock. My little Chardonnay-Mercedes came running into my bedroom crying. My youngest two, Tyler-Morgan and Victoria-Storm, slept through it all. I was still shaking when I was skinning up and watching Trisha the next morning."
The British Red Cross has so far managed to ship 4,000 crates of Sunny Delight to the area to help the stricken locals. Rescue workers are still searching through the rubble and have found large quantities of personal belongings, including benefit books, jewellery from Elizabeth Duke at Argos and Bone China from Poundstretcher.
HOW CAN YOU HELP?
This appeal is to raise money for food and clothing parcels for those unfortunate enough to be caught up in this disaster.
Clothing is most sought after - items most needed include: Fila or Burberry baseball Caps, Kappa tracksuit tops (his and hers), Shell suits (female), White sport socks, Rockport boots. Any other items usually sold in Primark.
Food parcels may be harder to come by, but are needed all the same.
Required foodstuffs include: Microwave meals, Tins of baked beans, Ice cream, Cans of Colt 45 or Special Brew.
.**Breaking news**
Rescue workers found a girl in the rubble smothered in raspberry alco-pop.
"Where are you bleeding from?' they asked " ROMFORD" said the girl. "Woss that gotta do wiv you"? “How many fingers have I got up” said he paramedic “OMG” said the girl, “I’m paralysed from the waist down”
It would appear the Hurricane went North and hit Essex
ESSEX HURRICANE APPEAL
You may have heard of yesterday's storm damage in the UK which affected Essex.
Locally it was referred to as Hurricane Shazza and hit Essex in the early hours of Friday with its epicentre in Basildon.
Victims were seen wandering around aimlessly, muttering "Faaackinell".
The hurricane decimated the area, causing approximately £30 worth of damage.
Several priceless collections of mementos from Majorca and the Costa Del Sol were damaged beyond repair.
Three areas of historic burnt out cars were disturbed and many locals were woken well before their benefit giros arrived.
One resident - Tracy Sharon Smith, a 15-year-old mother of 5, said, "It was such a shock. My little Chardonnay-Mercedes came running into my bedroom crying. My youngest two, Tyler-Morgan and Victoria-Storm, slept through it all. I was still shaking when I was skinning up and watching Trisha the next morning."
The British Red Cross has so far managed to ship 4,000 crates of Sunny Delight to the area to help the stricken locals. Rescue workers are still searching through the rubble and have found large quantities of personal belongings, including benefit books, jewellery from Elizabeth Duke at Argos and Bone China from Poundstretcher.
HOW CAN YOU HELP?
This appeal is to raise money for food and clothing parcels for those unfortunate enough to be caught up in this disaster.
Clothing is most sought after - items most needed include: Fila or Burberry baseball Caps, Kappa tracksuit tops (his and hers), Shell suits (female), White sport socks, Rockport boots. Any other items usually sold in Primark.
Food parcels may be harder to come by, but are needed all the same.
Required foodstuffs include: Microwave meals, Tins of baked beans, Ice cream, Cans of Colt 45 or Special Brew.
.**Breaking news**
Rescue workers found a girl in the rubble smothered in raspberry alco-pop.
"Where are you bleeding from?' they asked " ROMFORD" said the girl. "Woss that gotta do wiv you"? “How many fingers have I got up” said he paramedic “OMG” said the girl, “I’m paralysed from the waist down”
mcframe
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In Concarneau, Aug 04 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boscastle_flood_of_2004) we persuaded the HM to do a run in his van to a local garage to get a supply of old tyres.
Great memory of us & crew of a red-ensigned big Westerly running down the pontoon at 02:00 in the p155ing rain, shorts & flip-flop, tyres under each arm <It's A Knockout> "With the storm at it's height, the plucky Brits are playing their joker - old tyres!" </IAK> ;->
Ended up helping *lace* a Squadron 50-something to the pontoon - polishing out tyre-marks was a small part of his repairs...
The pontoons in the outer harbour are moored to the rocky seabed, not to piles, and started to break up. I wasn't /too/ worried until the skipper said to me "If we have to evacuate the boat, can you grab my sextant?" =:-O
TSailors
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currently we are in cuxhaven marina with 20 knot winds howling . this marina takes the swell wind everything in. I tied all the lines from all cleats and even used the boat's winches. it's still bucking like a bronco and groaning.
no sleep tonight ..
no sleep tonight ..
johnalison
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Too late now, but you need to keep an eye on the forecast and get to the inner berths which are perfectly OK before all the Dutchmen on their way home. We did that on our last visit and had a happy five days while a gale went through. I liked the town, and cycling round the sights.
