anterak
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I choose to buy an Antares 880 with 2 x Suzuki DF 150 G series, the new one, i'll feedback here after april 2014 about motors performances.
Beneteau Antares 8.80
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jamiepyoung
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I see you're selling your boat? Can i ask why?
Rainbow Tim
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I didn't realise I was - why do you think that??
Matt341
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I think Jamie was referring to the OP's boat, Romans8, which is listed for sale here with Dickies - http://www.dickies.co.uk/brokerage/...=4470544&desc=4470544 - Beneteau Antares 8.80
Listed as a stock boat though so maybe the OP has upgraded?
Listed as a stock boat though so maybe the OP has upgraded?
romans8
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Yes I have upgraded Antares 8.80 to a new Beneteau Antares 30 fly seamotion - my wife has new knee fitted so went for this boat so that she can easily step on from pontoon to new boats rear bathing platform - lost speed and performance for easy access. Plus fly bridge!!!!
Fitting new boat with copper coat and stern thruster
Raymarine electronics - worth a visit to the very advanced demo suite at Fareham to test and try the latest chartplotters.
Fitting new boat with copper coat and stern thruster
Raymarine electronics - worth a visit to the very advanced demo suite at Fareham to test and try the latest chartplotters.
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romans8
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Started new forum "bought Beneteau Antares 30 fly" also pictures of new boat on Anders forum "Antares 30 questions" worth following good advice
mravsky
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Hi, I am buying an Antares 8.80 2012, which also doesn't come with the convertibility of the saloon bench into a full bed.
The sides of this boat are plastic, not wood like at your photos.
My question is: Does Beneteau sell the extra equipment for this purpose, including the cushion?
I guess a proper telescoping leg would do the job without a need to drill into plastic for board support?
Does anyone have more experience on the topic?
Thanks!
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The sides of this boat are plastic, not wood like at your photos.
My question is: Does Beneteau sell the extra equipment for this purpose, including the cushion?
I guess a proper telescoping leg would do the job without a need to drill into plastic for board support?
Does anyone have more experience on the topic?
Thanks!
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romans8
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We had a cushion made for our boat - on my latest Antares 30 the main saloon table converts into a bed by using a short stem to support it so this is available I presume but on our 8.80 we had a small wood support fitted which worked well
anterak
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Finaly we ran for 2 x 150 Mercury Verado because Suzuki after sale service and network were very weak here in my country.
I'm very happy of the boat and the motor. I didn't notice some bad conception or building on boat. By the way we own the first 2014 model which was the first to come out of the factory.
I'm very happy of the boat and the motor. I didn't notice some bad conception or building on boat. By the way we own the first 2014 model which was the first to come out of the factory.
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rustybarge
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Lovely looking boat, those twin engines look great!
any fuel consumption figures?
any fuel consumption figures?
anterak
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I do not have yet all analysis about consumption.
What i noticed is that i burned one time around 100 L fuel for a 37 Nm trip with variable speed that's 2,7 l/Nm or 0,37 M/1L with full tank (400L) and 4 persons with half of the way flat sea condition and 3 beaufort for the other half.
I'm going to do more test this summer
What i noticed is that i burned one time around 100 L fuel for a 37 Nm trip with variable speed that's 2,7 l/Nm or 0,37 M/1L with full tank (400L) and 4 persons with half of the way flat sea condition and 3 beaufort for the other half.
I'm going to do more test this summer
rustybarge
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That at should get better when the engines are run in; I'm guessing 9 g/hr at 18 kts to give 2 mpg or better, working from the standard Honda 150 that uses 4.5 gall /hr at 4000 revs.......
anterak
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You talked about US ok UK Gallon ?
rustybarge
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Here's specs for the Honda 150hp measured with a very accurate fuel meter: (uk gallons)
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anterak
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Here is real infos about consumption after this holidays :
For info : boat weight around 4,5 T with 2 x 150 verado, 400 L fuel, 100 L water, 2 adults + 2 childs with all stuff inside ...
Between 2500-3000 T/min we are @ 7,8 Knots and using 17-20 L/hours
Around 4500 T/min we are @ 20 knots and using 60 L/hours
This is real consumption gave by vessel view 4
For info : boat weight around 4,5 T with 2 x 150 verado, 400 L fuel, 100 L water, 2 adults + 2 childs with all stuff inside ...
Between 2500-3000 T/min we are @ 7,8 Knots and using 17-20 L/hours
Around 4500 T/min we are @ 20 knots and using 60 L/hours
This is real consumption gave by vessel view 4
rustybarge
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here's the fuel consumption for a Merry fisher 925, same weight with 320 hp diesel: 55ltr/hr at 20kts.......
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anterak
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It is difficult to compare a diesel engine with a gasoline engine. RPM are not the same between these 2 engines.
rustybarge
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At at normal cruise, about 20 kts in a planing boat is a good starting point. The fuel consumption graphs will overlap for most engines; although a bigger engine running at lower revs is sometimes more economical.
what is evident is that once revs on an outboard go over 4000 revs, or 2500 revs on a modern diesel, the fuel consumption increases very rapidly.
as your figures demonstrate the fuel consumption on a 4.5 tons planing boat is nearly identical with modern electronic injection outboards or diesel; and when you consider the purchase price of the diesels at twice the price, the age of outboards has really arrived......
romans8
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Fuel consumption
I agree we now have a Antares 30 fly with Volvo 370 and find that once we go over 2500 revs we start to plane well and are at about 15 knots at about 2700 revs we reach a point that we are going well and using about 35 - 38 ltrs per hour .
We have now completed about 55 hours on new boat so still learning the best hours per litre revs.
Our 8.80 certainly was fast.
At at normal cruise, about 20 kts in a planing boat is a good starting point. The fuel consumption graphs will overlap for most engines; although a bigger engine running at lower revs is sometimes more economical.
what is evident is that once revs on an outboard go over 4000 revs, or 2500 revs on a modern diesel, the fuel consumption increases very rapidly.
as your figures demonstrate the fuel consumption on a 4.5 tons planing boat is nearly identical with modern electronic injection outboards or diesel; and when you consider the purchase price of the diesels at twice the price, the age of outboards has really arrived......
I agree we now have a Antares 30 fly with Volvo 370 and find that once we go over 2500 revs we start to plane well and are at about 15 knots at about 2700 revs we reach a point that we are going well and using about 35 - 38 ltrs per hour .
We have now completed about 55 hours on new boat so still learning the best hours per litre revs.
Our 8.80 certainly was fast.
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rwoofer
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I know that this is a "it depends" question, but in the scheme of things I would not say 10 knots is planing in a 30 foot boat. To my mind, "most" boats don't really start planing until above 15 knots or so. In my Merry Fisher I reckon it is only really planing at about 18 knots.