Become a Waste of Space

[DownWest]

Joined up whiting……

Trying to whitewash the report?

 

[DownWest]

When I started to write the school had a fad about italic script and we were all issued with pens with italic nibs, it ruined my handwriting However as a result of a short-lived minor rebellion to my parents wishes I decided I would become an apprentice Draughtsman as a result of a week perhaps more of drawing 3 lines across a piece of draughting paper and then printing the alphabet in capital letters and the numbers 0 to 9 between the lanes and then repeating the exercise until the A2 piece of paper was full and then starting afresh I can print with the best of them. My handwriting though would easily convince a reader that I was a member of the medical profession.

Yep, we had italic pens (and inkwells..) before fountain pens were madatory. Biros where non u. I blame my just legible writing on taking notes at speed in science classes, followed by bashing my hand years later..
My sister's hand is exquisite, a practical italic. She went to a convent and apart from the writing, 'Illustrated' the opening letters of texts.

Btw, the late Iain Oughtred had a very stylish hand. Not unlike my sister's. We exchanged a few notes as we have shared ancestry. I built one of his boats.

 

[Babylon]

Btw, the late Iain Oughtred had a very stylish hand. Not unlike my sister's. We exchanged a few notes as we have shared ancestry. I built one of his boats

I agree. Which design did you build?

 

[DownWest]

I agree. Which design did you build?

Whilley Tern, gunter sloop rig. Delightful boat to sail.

 

[Stemar]

As a copper, I had to have legible writing - and a legible signature but, after I left, my signature got reduced and reduced until it was a few squiggles bearing little resemblance to my name. I kept the handwriting until computers came along, when the rot set in with Word Perfect and Word completed the job.

 

[oldgit]

Best flounce of the year!

Sorry to see you go, Captain.

Perhaps a competition as to who has done the bestest flounce ever , feel sure people have done better than this . ?
5/10 could do better ?
Award the winner bottle of "Lidle" Gin " to drown their angst. !

 

[Roberto]

Yep, we had italic pens (and inkwells..) before fountain pens were madatory. Biros where non u. I blame my just legible writing on taking notes at speed in science classes, followed by bashing my hand years later..
My sister's hand is exquisite, a practical italic. She went to a convent and apart from the writing, 'Illustrated' the opening letters of texts.

A curiosity Italics comes from Aldus Manutius, a Venice printer of about 1500AD, he invented a typefont which was more similar to handwriting of the time and used it to print small size books of ancient Latin and Greek authors, sort of first paperbacks of history. The books had a great success and the font spreaded throughout the rest of Europe.

 

[RunAgroundHard]

Well very sorry to have to OUT this , but am being prompted by BYW to respond to my abscence from these discussions , I feel that I should state why and give my views on the EDITING and Management of this tired place ...

I have been admonished a few times by "BYW" but never asked to explain myself. Are you sure you are talking about YBW2 and you are a bit confused?

... The whole episode was I think the MOST important issue for a long time to discuss and understand , with certain SAFETY issues that were fairly basic to Yachting and out to have been understood by all on board this Yacht ...

I think all of the safety issues that the boat with the tall mast may or may not have failed to follow are well known to sailors, if they choose to educate themselves. It is pretty clear from any major incident on vessels, or other installations, where people are known to be knowledgeable and trained that knowledge is not a determination of survival. The Marques and Cheeki Rafikee being relevant examples.

... BY removing the discussions, to await any Legal or official report just shows how 'out of touch' the ADMIN are on here ...

It shows exactly how in touch they are and suggests that you are ignorant of the position that YBW could find themselves in.

... Official reports rarel;y aproportion any blame , so us on here will almost learn nothing of any use , leaving us to apportion blame ourselves ...

Blame is rarely of use in establishing lessons and applying insights to prevent similar events from occurring. Blame is best left to agencies that exist to do that, where it is important to hold a person accountable. My experiences that blame rarely gets assigned where it best delivers change e.g. Piper Alpha utterly failed to blame any individual in Occidental's leadership for the atrocious application of their management system, but instead blamed two fitters for not tightening bolts. You apply too much importance to blame as a solution.

... Likewise it will unessarily left in the DARK for quite some time , when there are Newcommers who should at best be aquainted to the mistakes made by those 'on board' soonest rather than wait until it all becomes not important , leaving the best advice to be drifting off into the atmosphere ...

The RYA has a decent set of books on various aspects of sailing and yachts that the newcomer can rely on to learn factual information that will enlighten them and help them sail safely e.g. Safety At Sea and Stability, being particularly relevant.

... Whilst what should be the 'best advice' available get lost and relatively unimportant and this FORUM relagated to insignificant ...

This forum, in fact many forums of a similar nature are not best placed to learn things. You can see that in the many threads that have contradictory advice. YBW has always been irrelevant. How sad if you think it is anything other than frippery. Of course, there are knowledgable;e people who post on here but how to know that as there is no regulation of content accuracy.

... Sorry but good bye , wallow in your mediocraty

I would guess that most people don't care who you are, if you stay or if you go. In my opinion, from what I read of your posts, they were all rather dull and pointless, and I stopped reading anything you said a long time ago. As for mediocrity, clearly you have never gotten anything out the forum that was useful from one of the experts on here, nor paid attention to any forumite who posted thanks for their particular issue being sorted.

 

[Babylon]

Whilley Tern, gunter sloop rig. Delightful boat to sail.

Lovely! He took the essence of the Shetland double-ender and optimised it perfectly for glued ply; I have the drawings which I bought from him. Did you build it with decking or as open boat?

 

[Baggywrinkle]

Do you honestly think that the owner of said super yacht ( if not already deceased) would give a toss about the musings of a bunch of muppets in their 32 ft westerlies as to the reason his yacht sank

I don't think drowning due to being caught up and trapped in your sagging headlining has ever appeared as a cause of death, but I may be wrong.

 

[DownWest]

Lovely! He took the essence of the Shetland double-ender and optimised it perfectly for glued ply; I have the drawings which I bought from him. Did you build it with decking or as open boat?

As designed with the fore and aft low level decks
I actually ordered plans from Iain for the Whilley Boat, but he sent the revised plans for the Tern, so likely I got the first set.

 

[Daydream believer]

I don't think drowning due to being caught up and trapped in your sagging headlining has ever appeared as a cause of death, but I may be wrong.

Your comment is somewhat irrelevant. However, there was a case where a yacht was seriously flooded at sea , but survived. The skipper thought that his wife had been swept out through a hole in the hull. In fact she had been tangled in the bedding in the forepeak & drowned. He found her body several days later when tidying up. Not quite saggy headlining but ?????

 

[Dellquay13]

Thank you. I didn’t know what I learned at school was called cursive script. It’s just joined up to me

At school I mostly learned Cussing

 

[zoidberg]

Not only does the other daughter (no ADD) have beautiful curves cursive

Do please excuse my unwitting error of initial comprehension.

Misreading words can happen for several reasons, including:

1. Cognitive Load: When you're reading quickly or multitasking, your brain may not process each word fully, leading to misinterpretations.
2. Familiarity: If a word looks similar to another word you know, you might read it incorrectly, especially if you’re skimming.
3. Distractions: External distractions or internal thoughts can divert your attention, causing you to misread.
4. Fatigue: Tiredness can affect concentration and comprehension, making it easier to misread.

I really must heed that Specsavers ad.....

 

[zoidberg]

FWIW...

Just a chuckle.

 

[Bouba]

With respect to the mods (and remember, you now owe me)....there has been threats of legal action from interested parties....and I suspect that this site doesn’t want to get involved.
How someone leaving turns into an indictment of the American school system and styles of penmanship (pen(man, woman, they, it)ship) is the sort of Fred Drift that causes others to pack it in and leave also

 

[Irish Rover]

With respect to the mods (and remember, you now owe me)....there has been threats of legal action from interested parties....and I suspect that this site doesn’t want to get involved.
How someone leaving turns into an indictment of the American school system and styles of penmanship (pen(man, woman, they, it)ship) is the sort of Fred Drift that causes others to pack it in and leave also

Thank you for saying what I just couldn't be bothered saying.

 

[boomerangben]

With respect to the mods (and remember, you now owe me)....there has been threats of legal action from interested parties....and I suspect that this site doesn’t want to get involved.
How someone leaving turns into an indictment of the American school system and styles of penmanship (pen(man, woman, they, it)ship) is the sort of Fred Drift that causes others to pack it in and leave also

I wonder if psychologists research behaviours on fora. As you say Fred Drift plays havoc with or provides entertainment to various “serious” or daft threads depending on the reader’s taste/perversity. I also wonder if fora also attract people of certain mindsets/behaviour traits. Either way we all have to take the ramblings/quips/barbs of largely anonymous strangers with a dose of Caribbean/Cajun/cuisine of your choice seasoning.

 

[oldgit]

The Air Accident Investigation and most of the aircraft manufacturing or user base get out reports PDQ. Lives may depend on us understanding dangerous situations exist, never mind who is at fault and fine detail. The MAIB are way behind schedule

If I was an owner of such a super yacht, I would want to know if it was downflooding or piss poor stability for such a craft, so sensible comments by boat users might help give understanding well before authorities release reports - if they ever do

The MAIB do not apportion blame.
They produce a investigative report on the events which occurred pre the incident and any resulting consequences .
Any prosecution or further action if warranted is decided by the MCA.
Involved in MAIB investigation few years ago .
The two officers who were investigating , fairly convinced about what happened but stated that their sole job was to find out what had occurred, it was completely up to the MCA as to if any legal action would be undertaken.
In this case the MCA did prosecute, the skipper was sentenced, he appealed, the appeal Judge increased the sentence.

 

[RunAgroundHard]

… How someone leaving turns into an indictment of the American school system and styles of penmanship (pen(man, woman, they, it)ship) is the sort of Fred Drift that causes others to pack it in and leave also

Thank you for saying what I just couldn't be bothered saying.

A few have commented on the state of this place before they left, very helpful and knowledgeable posters, and basically they got fed up with always being challenged and criticised by ignoramuses.

A few did complain about moderation and left but I don’t remember thread drift being a big thing in the leaving stakes.

If thread drift really irks you, then perhaps forums are not for you, then again maybe you like moaning.