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oldmanofthehills

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i don't think it is taught anywhere in the USA anymore.., okay, maybe that's an exaggeration, but it's not taught many places.

NYC just released results of a city-wide test of high school students; only about 46% were at grade level in mathematics.., and "grade level" standard has been lowered over the years.

In that environment, teaching cursive seems like a bit of a luxury.
I was taught cursive writing in late primary school, however I am fairly dyslexic and have dyspraxia so my loops though loopy meant that no one could read it. So at secondary school they taught me Marian Richardson script which separates some letters. I still sign my name in cursive
 

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I was taught cursive writing in late primary school, however I am fairly dyslexic and have dyspraxia so my loops though loopy meant that no one could read it. So at secondary school they taught me Marian Richardson script which separates some letters. I still sign my name in cursive

My cursive is nearly unreadable.., even by me. and my regular print writing is not much better, but I get by.

I blame ADD

I have two daughters, one of whom has worse ADD than me, and she can not do cursive at all.

Not only does the other daughter (no ADD) have beautiful cursive, but she is fluent in Mandarin, and has notebooks full of tiny Chinese characters drawn with such exquisite skill that it amazes me.

I think it's a good thing I wasn't born in China, or I would not be able to write at all. It seems that the western alphabet is much more tolerant of people with writing issues than Chinese where a high level of precision is needed.
 

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It seems to me wholly laudable to shut down ill-informed speculation about an incident where several folk lost their lives - out of respect for the dead, and consideration for the families of the dead. And perhaps at least wait until those who are charged with the responsibility of looking into the situation have done so and their conclusions have been published.
 

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It seems to me wholly laudable to shut down ill-informed speculation about an incident where several folk lost their lives - out of respect for the dead, and consideration for the families of the dead. And perhaps at least wait until those who are charged with the responsibility of looking into the situation have done so and their conclusions have been published.
All speculation is ill informed, really. However, if you shut down all discussion of accidents at sea until there's an official report, imo that's way over the top. As long as we are respectful towards the dead and bereaved, and we don't post anything that is defamatory or illegal, I can't see the issue with posters discussing a maritime accident on a boating forum.
 

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All speculation is ill informed, really. However, if you shut down all discussion of accidents at sea until there's an official report, imo that's way over the top. As long as we are respectful towards the dead and bereaved, and we don't post anything that is defamatory or illegal, I can't see the issue with posters discussing a maritime accident on a boating forum.
I agree, moderation in all things, including moderating
 

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I agree, moderation in all things, including moderating
We all push the limits somewhat from time to time, but imo the mods are reasonably tolerant when it comes to maritime matters. In fairness, they are also amenable to engage with posters who make representations about moderation decisions. I had a thread deleted recently, but when I approached the mods and argued my case it was reinstated. As I said we all push the limits sometimes but some posters have no limits and think they can post what they like just because they think what they're is correct or true.
 

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However, discursive writing is alive and well here in the UK. On this forum Fred Drift is one of the leading practitioners.
𝓘𝓽'𝓼 𝓪𝓰𝓮𝓼 𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮 𝓘'𝓿𝓮 𝔀𝓻𝓲𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓷 𝓪𝓷𝔂𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓲𝓷 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓼𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓼𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽..
 

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I had to sign my name the other day, that was difficult because as soon as you have to think about it, it's gone.
I was a GP in pre computer days so I've signed a few things
 

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Well very sorry to have to OUT this , but am being prompted by BYW to respond to my abscence from these discussions , I feel that I should state why and give my views on the EDITING and Management of this tired place

I had a post rejected a while back , on a matter which I understand was deleted and made forbidden to discuss or refer to

The issue that I am refering to was (of course) the sinking and loss of life of the crew and passengers of a Yacht with reputed to be the tallest Mast known to yachtsmen

The whole episode was I think the MOST important issue for a long time to discuss and understand , with certain SAFETY issues that were fairly basic to Yachting and out to have been understood by all on board this Yacht

BY removing the discussions, to await any Legal or official report just shows how 'out of touch' the ADMIN are on here ; Official reports rarel;y aproportion any blame , so us on here will almost learn nothing of any use , leaving us to apportion blame ourselves ; Likewise it will unessarily left in the DARK for quite some time , when there are Newcommers who should at best be aquainted to the mistakes made by those 'on board' soonest rather than wait until it all becomes not important , leaving the best advice to be drifting off into the atmosphere ;

Whilst what should be the 'best advice' available get lost and relatively unimportant and this FORUM relagated to insignificant

Sorry but good bye , wallow in your mediocraty

I can take you off "ignore" then?
 

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All speculation is ill informed, really. However, if you shut down all discussion of accidents at sea until there's an official report, imo that's way over the top. As long as we are respectful towards the dead and bereaved, and we don't post anything that is defamatory or illegal, I can't see the issue with posters discussing a maritime accident on a boating forum.
The Air Accident Investigation and most of the aircraft manufacturing or user base get out reports PDQ. Lives may depend on us understanding dangerous situations exist, never mind who is at fault and fine detail. The MAIB are way behind schedule

If I was an owner of such a super yacht, I would want to know if it was downflooding or piss poor stability for such a craft, so sensible comments by boat users might help give understanding well before authorities release reports - if they ever do
 

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If I was an owner of such a super yacht, I would want to know if it was downflooding or piss poor stability for such a craft, so sensible comments by boat users might help give understanding well before authorities release reports - if they ever do
Do you honestly think that the owner of said super yacht ( if not already deceased) would give a toss about the musings of a bunch of muppets in their 32 ft westerlies as to the reason his yacht sank
 

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According to a friend who is a USA citizen, cursive writing is no longer taught in Tennessee.

I was surprised recently to see my neighbour's little girls (here in UK) were not using cursive script in their writing exercises from school, and was told they weren't expected to.

It reminded me of a friend/housemate who at the time, mid-70s, was at teacher training college. His hand writing was very distinctive (rather flowery) but quite legible, and never joined letters. He was warned this was unacceptable, at least for writing on the blackboard etc. for the pupils, and if he didn't learn to use cursive script he might well fail the course. (I can't remember, or never learnt, what the outcome of that threat was, but in the end he didn't pursue a teaching career.)
 

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The Air Accident Investigation and most of the aircraft manufacturing or user base get out reports PDQ. Lives may depend on us understanding dangerous situations exist, never mind who is at fault and fine detail. The MAIB are way behind schedule

If I was an owner of such a super yacht, I would want to know if it was downflooding or piss poor stability for such a craft, so sensible comments by boat users might help give understanding well before authorities release reports - if they ever do
I believe the super yacht world to be quite small and as a result a small community of crew means news will travel fast regarding what might have gone wrong. I agree that aviation appears to be far better at getting interim reports out (particularly if a fleet is grounded) and marine reports seem to take longer. But IME aviation fora are even worse than this place for speculation.

Nothing wrong in learning from the experience of others, but there’s quite a bit wrong with coming to the wrong conclusion and trying to learn from that
 

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When I started to write the school had a fad about italic script and we were all issued with pens with italic nibs, it ruined my handwriting However as a result of a short-lived minor rebellion to my parents wishes I decided I would become an apprentice Draughtsman as a result of a week perhaps more of drawing 3 lines across a piece of draughting paper and then printing the alphabet in capital letters and the numbers 0 to 9 between the lanes and then repeating the exercise until the A2 piece of paper was full and then starting afresh I can print with the best of them. My handwriting though would easily convince a reader that I was a member of the medical profession.
 
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