Bayliner or binliner

Then why refer to it as a binliner? :rolleyes:

Because whether i call it a bayliner or a binliner, everyone knows what i mean, unless it is someone who insists on calling fish eggs Caviar, then I can understand the confusion.

Binliner is a name, a term of endearment, a confidence in the product that does not require marketed glamour to sell it. Are you the sort of person who is so limited in personal confidence and independent spirit that you do need someone elses idea of what is right and good to part with your cash? Do you need fairline, sunseeker or princess to keep your head above water? Do you need twin iron lumps that are painted green that in my view are overpriced mediocrity to propel you along?

Yes? Fair enough, your choice, just as calling my beloved binliner just that is mine. Btw I hate the sarcastic icon.
 
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Binliner is a name, a term of endearment

I don't see it as a term of endearment, for me the term refers to something that's only good for the bin - which I think we'd agree that post-2000 Bayliners certainly are not. I don't like the reference because it makes people think that Bayliners are poor quality which, apart from not being justified, may well devalue my boat when it comes to selling it. It's like calling a Ford a Lada.
 
For an entry level boat the Bayliner ticked all the boxes,they looked like a mini big boat and the designs attracted those looking for a boat which perhaps reflected aspiration, rather than experience.
Looking for our first proper boat, looked at loads as your appeared to get an awful lot of boat for the money. The first was a sports cuddy with twin petrols on outdrives, remember the ones converted by BMW.
It was immaculate and with an virtually no hours.:).It was up for sale for years.
Main criticism was at that time build quality, with some justification.Interior fabrics was really designed for warm climates not for English summers. Glue appeared to be the main element of the boat interior.
Chine cracking was problem.
As a result bought a Regal with a pair of "Black Anchors"*.....what a crock of ***t that was.
As others have said it got loads of people into boating,do wonder just how many bought a second one.:)

* Mercruiser petrol engine sometimes driving Mercruiser outdrives.

If one of them started and got you there...a triumph.
If it got you home again, or merely to some place you could catch a bus home from... pathetically grateful.

My son currently owns one, bought from a friend of ours who owned her for approx 15 years and only sold her to buy a bigger one. Have spent many, many hours on both boats, certainly not the highest quality of fixtures and fittings, but excellent use of space and very comfortable for lounging around on board. Bayliners make for very affordable boating, which is no bad thing.

So no sneering at the brand from me.
 
so the bayliner sounds like a great entry level ,and great user boat for the lesser budget , my question is for the people who have a greater budget what was your entry level boat and what do you have now .
 
I cant remember exactly what our first family boat was because I was so young (about 8 years old I think), but it was a smallish zodiac inflatable with an 8hp tohatsu outboard. The first boat I bought myself was a zodiac futura mark 2 inflatable with a yamaha 50hp outboard about15 years ago. After the zodiaci bought a 21 foot sea ray bowrider and then a windy 25 mirage , which is the boat I have today.
 
Rather patronising og. Turn the question round. How many people who have actually owned one would dismiss them as the armchair critcs do? I bought 2 BTW.

Out in a bit of blow the other day, was watching the boats around me as we made our way up the Thames. Some boats where having a bit of a hard time of it, bouncing around and having to constantly correct course. The little fleet consisted of a couple of T36,the odd Princess,a Corniche , Broom 50, my old tub and a Sealine 43.5 Fly.
Curious thing was Sealine skipper was the only one to comment about what a rough time he had had and how he had got soaked up on his flybridge.
It has been rumoured that Sealine owners can be a tad defensive about their choice of boats which surely follow the Bayliner principle of being excellent value for money.:)
 
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Out in a bit of blow the other day, was watching the boats around me as we made our way up the Thames. Some boats where having a bit of a hard time of it, bouncing around and having to constantly correct course. The little fleet consisted of a couple of T36,the odd Princess,a Corniche , Broom 50, my old tub and a Sealine 43.5 Fly.
Curious thing was Sealine skipper was the only one to comment about what a rough time he had had and how he had got soaked up on his flybridge.
It has been rumoured that Sealine owners can be a tad defensive about their choice of boats which surely follow the Bayliner principle of being excellent value for money.:)

They say that with senility one regresses to a second childhood. Guess what I was thinking when I read that childish comment.......
 
Out in a bit of blow the other day, was watching the boats around me as we made our way up the Thames. Some boats where having a bit of a hard time of it, bouncing around and having to constantly correct course. The little fleet consisted of a couple of T36,the odd Princess,a Corniche , Broom 50, my old tub and a Sealine 43.5 Fly.
Curious thing was Sealine skipper was the only one to comment about what a rough time he had had and how he had got soaked up on his flybridge.
It has been rumoured that Sealine owners can be a tad defensive about their choice of boats which surely follow the Bayliner principle of being excellent value for money.:)
FWIW, I have owned a wide variety of different makes of boat, including 3 Sealines, and the Sealine 410 (which has a similar hull to the 42/5) was one of the better sea boats I've had for its size. Also Kim Hollamby, ex editor of MBM, circumnavigated the UK in a Sealine 360 so they can't be that bad
 
still got your compass
No sweat you might need it to navigate to Caernarfon, whereupon the Fee for the loan will be a Large Bap with bacon egg sausage mushrooms Kraft (has to be Kraft) cheese slice HP Brown sauce a little HP (has to be HP) tomato sauce , gherkin slices, from Germany or Austria and a strong Cup of Yorkshire tea with half a teaspoon of sugar and semi skimmed milk from Cornwall, the full on milk will mess with My figure
Job Sorted again!
 
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