Bav 38 et al

[david_e]

Aha!

This and the other posts are a useful contribution James, many thanks.

I had wondered about the test conditions, so this clarifies it. If you have a limited budget & time resource then that is it.

Is it possible to offer conjecture on what performance might be in the conditions not tested using the design information as a starting point, or, is a small change in hull shape to difficult to predict etc..?

 

[david_e]

The verdict

is tending towards saying it is good value for what it is. I suspect that with all these modern boats, in testing conditions, the owners would give up before the boats would.

I wonder with Bavs, unlike Ben/Jen who do a full range, whether they deliberately don't make performance oriented models so as not to have them 'tested' by the majority.

Accepting that their range is currently built to a price, what would the effect of a more carefully and quality oriented range be on the market?

 

[davidhand]

Can't comment on that particular boat, but have you read any of the Copeland's books? (a couple from Hill Head, now in Vancouver) They did a five year circumnav in a mid eightees Beneteau 38, I spoke to her at a boat show and she was crazy about the boat, they plan to take off again. I thought it very interesting considering the bashing Ben, Bav, Jen on this board.

 

[jamesjermain]

Predicted performance.

It is quite possible to predict performance in conditions other than those experienced - easier upwards that downwards. Sometimes I do this but I have to be really careful here. If I say performance in stong winds might be poor, the builder really could take me to the cleaners if I don't have factual data to base the 'guess' on - either that or I can prove I am using industry standard meathodology to do it.
This is one of the reasons YW came so badly unstuck in the Walker Wingsail case

JJ

 

[Chris_Robb]

Sorry about the finger

James sorry about your finger - how the hell did you do it?

 

[jamesjermain]

Re: Sorry about the finger

While pruning ceanothus with new, v sharp secateurs - snipped through tip of bone without a hesitation

JJ