Baffled by DSC.

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In Poole Harbour last week we received a VHF call from Portland Coastguard on 16 addressed to “vessel with MMSI No. 235…..” which was our number. This was rapidly followed by a call to our boat name and international call sign. We couldn’t raise Portland by VHF (they have reception problems in some parts of Poole) so Poole Port Control, who could hear both of us, transferred our mobile phone number to the Coastguard and they called me back by phone.

They said that they had received a DSC acknowledgement of an urgency call from us. (The acknowledgement from us not the call.) They were just checking that we were Ok. It definitely came from our set as they had received our MMSI and our exact position. We have a Silva S15 DSC radio with an integrated Navtex receiver. At the time they received our acknowledgement I was either listening to Solent Coastguard’s MSI broadcast and switching channels to get the best reception, or I may have been scrolling through Navtex messages. Both of these are things which we do regularly with this radio and they have not given problems before.

I may have pressed the wrong button as the menu system on the radio is pretty confusing at times but I am certain that I did not press the distress button. Also the “Enter” button on the mike is used both to acknowledge incoming calls and to execute various menu commands. At no time did I hear any incoming call alarms but I suppose I could have hit “Enter” exactly as a call was coming in. But the radio didn’t log any incoming DSC calls.

That evening we got out the instruction book for the radio and the course notes from the radio operator’s course. We tried to explain what had happened but several questions remain and I wonder if anyone can shed any light on any of them:

1. Why didn’t Portland call us back on DSC?
2. If they received a digital transmission from us why couldn’t they hear our voice transmissions? (Ok we may have moved a mile or so between the two.)
3. I thought only distress calls sent your position and other calls only your MMSI. So why did the radio send our position?
4. I thought that this class (class D?) of DSC radio was incapable of acknowledging distress and urgency calls. So how could we have sent an acknowledgement?
5. The radio is still in warranty should I send it back?

I am thinking of getting in touch with Silva in any event to suggest several corrections and improvements to their instruction manual. I know it might be me getting old and stupid but shouldn’t the instruction book at least describe the various alarm tones if the set is incapable of demonstrating them? And shouldn’t you be able to leave the Navtex on overnight without waking the whole boat and the boat next door every time a message arrives?

Sorry about the long post but I am trying to get all the details straight.

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Baffled also.

All I can contribute is to say is I agree with 3 & 4:
as I understand it, only distress calls include position and Class D controllers do not acknowledge distress/urgency calls.

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Don't know much about any of this but I guess 2 could be explained in a similar way to it being more likley to send a text message from a mobile phone than to make a phone call when there is v-poor reception. I suppose there must be redundancy checking and self correcting protocols in place for the digital signal otherwise I might sugest that a different DSC message got scrambled by noise which made it look like you.

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No idea. It would be very easy to acknowledge a distress call, when you are intending to silence the alarm (pressing ack rather than stop?). Problem then is that you would presumably have cancelled the original distress.

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That may be why Class D devices aren't supposed to be able to do it: they can only 'ack' calls addressed specifically to themselves.

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To be honest, I have heard a few false DSC maydays, with the operator claiming that the set must have sent them out, Certainly heard one vessel send out 3-4 maydays until CG asked them to turn it off. We once picked up a mayday that CG, for some reason, didn't. I called CG as I was worried that I had heard no traffic on 16, I had plotted their position to see if we were near enough to help, but found that a fault on my set prevented me accessing the calls log to obtain mmsi. Fortunately another station could supply the information and CG checked with the vessel concerned. False alarm.

Tip: always note all the information on the display if you hear a distress alert. mmsi, position, time and nature of distress etc. You can't rely on the set and when panic sets in those buttons become very small!

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