Azimut video

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I was posting a reply but it wouldn't let me and it's now completely disappeared. OP was a forum administrator. Was there a problem?
 
LOL, I bet there was.
Posting a link to a private video and the password to access it was something weird indeed...! :nonchalance:
 
you would have had very short odds that as soon as the maker saw it, then some pretty hot phone calls would take place. Any potential purchaser of that brand might have had reason to take a deep breath and have second thoughts.

Wonder if youtube have yielded to pressure as well ?


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Sorry. It was Facebook.
 
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I have a link to the video that I can email you J. But I'm not sure I have the password - do you? It mightbe on clip board of another computer I have running somewhere else. Can check later but if anyone has PW would be good to hear as the link to the vid still works

It is quite an enlightening video and the protagonist seemed pretty reasonable in sticking to the facts imho and letting the pictures tell the story. TBH it says nothing I didn't already know about what's under the skin of Azis built in very recent years - their very recent stuff isn't a patch on PrinFairSeek in build quality under the skin imho.

I have no love for Azimut currently, having had a run in with them at the Cannes boat show last month. I found their team astonishingly rude. I don't mean the stuff you sometimes see when a few brokers are perhaps PITA, I mean properly rude. It was quite funny I suppose overall, but the comedy wasn't intentional on their part, and as a bunch of people there was nothing to like about them.
 
you can find the password by doing a quick google for "Azimut 47 problems" and looking at the cached version of the original post that can no longer be found on this forum. I expect this thread itself will be for the chop.

It doesn't bode too well when such things get chopped. I expect reviews full of praise in the sponsoring magazines. I naively didn't extrapolate that to including these forums

Edit: just noticed a forum moderator was the author of the original post. doh
 
longjohnsilver said:
I was posting a reply but it wouldn't let me and it's now completely disappeared. OP was a forum administrator. Was there a problem?
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I'm glad I watched it first before pointing out the OP (yes - moderator) that posting the guy's password to his private video might not be a great idea.
If you can find it - it is numbing inditement of Azimut's after sales service and quality control. Delivered in totally dispassionate terms (making it all the more powerful) by the owner who judging from the video can have spent very little time indeed actually using his boat during his 2 years of ownership.
 
It looks like he's gone out of his way to make it publically available, comments on various facebook pages with link+password (hard to imagine having a password on it is going to give you any legal protection when you give it out with the URL)

One thing i was thinking when i watched it (but didn't keep track) is that it sounded like he (or at least the boat) went up and down the East Coast a lot. Seemed to keep mentioning putting it into New York, then Florida, then New York again etc.
 
sorabain said:
you can find the password by doing a quick google for "Azimut 47 problems" and looking at the cached version of the original post that can no longer be found on this forum. I expect this thread itself will be for the chop.

It doesn't bode too well when such things get chopped. I expect reviews full of praise in the sponsoring magazines. I naively didn't extrapolate that to including these forums

Edit: just noticed a forum moderator was the author of the original post. doh
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Yup, it turns out the video link and pw are widely known. My guess is the guy who created the video is probably quite happy about it being a bit public now. It's still there on vimeo because I just watched the last 3rd which I didn't have time for earlier. I feel sorry for the guy and he does seem balanced in his reportage. I don't know how experienced he is but imho you get hints of these things just by looking at the very latest Azi creations at boat shows
 
blueglass said:
I'm glad I watched it first before pointing out the OP (yes - moderator) that posting the guy's password to his private video might not be a great idea.
If you can find it - it is numbing inditement of Azimut's after sales service and quality control. Delivered in totally dispassionate terms (making it all the more powerful) by the owner who judging from the video can have spent very little time indeed actually using his boat during his 2 years of ownership.
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If you listen to the video you see he did over 250 engine hours in the first year. That is about double to Europe standards, and just over the average for a US boater which stand at about 200.
Most of the stuff I have seen from other builders.
Now I do not like to make bad publicity to anyone but when JFM says its a patch to the three brits, I have to disagree big time with him.
Have we not had a forumite in the past who had a similar list (if not worse) problems then this on a new Princess 67.
But if we want to speak apples lets all speak about apples.
Unfortunately if you work with new boats you see a couple of these every year, from different brands coming from all over.
Sometimes it can even be a new boat much more expensive then a new Azimut or Princess.
Some brands have better after sales service in some areas and not so good in others.

Azimut should be well up to speed considering how much they sell in the USA (about 100 a year).

Its a very intelligent well made video and you can see and learn a lot from it, but if you think that only Azimut and its dealer
are the only ones with these kind of problems and its direct competition is not IMO you are seeing with the wrong pair of eyes.
 
Would like to see this but can't find the video (although I have the password). Is there a google search term that I should be using?
 
Excellent (but damn scary) video. I know of a guy who bought an Azimut new and had nothing but problems from day one. This is going back to about 2007
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
If you listen to the video you see he did over 250 engine hours in the first year. That is about double to Europe standards, and just over the average for a US boater which stand at about 200.
Most of the stuff I have seen from other builders.
Now I do not like to make bad publicity to anyone but when JFM says its a patch to the three brits, I have to disagree big time with him.
Have we not had a forumite in the past who had a similar list (if not worse) problems then this on a new Princess 67.
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250 hours is nothing, and most of the problems were not hours related, so I'm not sure what your point is there. You surely have not seen that from other builders all on one boat have you? As regards comparison with the 3 Brits, let's agree to disagree, but my comment isn't off the cuff though - I've looked at all of them very closely and have proper engineering qualifications. I'm only referring to the current crop of Zimuts, ie the stuff in last 3 years or so. I don't recall the Princess 67 case. You can't mean Hurricane whose boat is and has been very good. Do you mean Magnum? His Prin 67 problems were ordinary new-boat snags (I knew that boat well and was on board/drove it for first 200 miles of its life)
 
Just watched the video, (its a facebook page, then a link to vimeo and then you need the password to watch) which IMO was done in a very fair and balanced way sticking to facts. Considering the hassle this guy had, he was very calm and controlled. I have only ever bought one new boat, our present Bavaria 36 Sail boat. I have to say that we had nowhere near any issues like that. Our boat was made properly, extras (of which there were a fair few, heating, BThruster, TV and sound, full Garmin suite connected to Raymarine basics, full aft closure, extra bilge pumps and alarms, more batteries etc., were installed properly, it all worked (and still is 3 years on) and it was really only very minor (by comparison) things that failed - water pipe fitting leak, blind missing from a porthole, rusty screw here and there, the odd overspill of sealant - things like that. All dead easy to fix. I know ours is a smaller more basic and simpler vessel, particularly engine-wise, but even so, what he went through has to be way beyond what should be expected or indeed accepted from any boat manufacturer. My biggest issue to date with Bavaria is why they use still brass skin fittings on a cat A Sea boat - but the same accusation can be put to many other manufacturers too!
 
The ybw post has been removed, but all the information you need is shown in the Google result... i.e.vimeo link and password.

Over 800 views so far...

Personally, I would respect the dealer / manufacturer more if they made good these issues. Sad for it to have come to such a lose lose point but hopefully the greater good is served.
 
EugeneR said:
The ybw post has been removed, but all the information you need is shown in the Google result... i.e.vimeo link and password.

Over 800 views so far...

Personally, I would respect the dealer / manufacturer more if they made good these issues. Sad for it to have come to such a lose lose point but hopefully the greater good is served.
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They did make good, just took a while and meant 3 months downtime in first 12... He's surprisingly calm about it all throughout I thought!
 
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