Attempt by our Committee to change the Club rules without notifying the members

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Daydream believer said:
But all organisations rely on a committee of sorts & many would not run without. Do you not think that you are being unfair to those that take the time to put something into the club rather than ride on the back of others
that being said - one of the best clubs I am member of ( not sailing) is run by one man-- But woe betide any one who crosses him
A lot to be said for dictatorships
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But look at how this Committee has behaved, the basic facts of this situation are simple and clear:
  • The Committee have expelled a member without specifying any precise reason - this is in contravention to RYA document Expulsion of Members.
  • The Committee refuse to allow a vote on this expulsion by members as provided for by the Club's Constitution.
 
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NickC said:
But look at how this Committee has behaved, the basic facts of this situation are simple and clear:
  • The Committee have expelled a member without specifying any precise reason - this is in contravention to RYA document Expulsion of Members.
  • The Committee refuse to allow a vote on this expulsion by members as provided for by the Club's Constitution.
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so what does the RYA have to say about all this?
 
NickC said:
But look at how this Committee has behaved, the basic facts of this situation are simple and clear:
  • The Committee have expelled a member without specifying any precise reason - this is in contravention to RYA document Expulsion of Members.
  • The Committee refuse to allow a vote on this expulsion by members as provided for by the Club's Constitution.
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But have we just not heard your side of the story & whilst that statement sounds bad it is important to know the committee's take on the case & so far you have used this forum to publicly slate the committee
I am not sure ( would have to read it all again to check) that the committee have actually taken the decision to defend themselves here, & to be honest, as they never instigated this thread, they should not have to
 
VicS said:
There is a picture of the event on the history page of the club's website (q,v.)
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So there is.
And it seems the club is affiliated to the RYA.
So contact with the RYA might be a much more effective way of sorting out your problem, one way or the other.
But if I were you, none of this would have ever seen the light of day because I would have quietly departed and joined another club.
 
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Nick c
Can i ask what you have achieved by this thread.
Now I know nothing about you. You may be A) a total P..t or B) a real hones guy with a genuine grievance-- I do not know & I would try not to form an opinion

But if you think about it. to win your case against the committee you need the support of the membership.
Many of them probably know who you are & will have already formed an opinion. as to A or B

Some will almost certainly have read this thread.
Those that disagreed with you probably now hate you even more for posting all this stuff on the public domain & bringing the club into public disrepute - It is no good blaming the committee for that, they have chosen to stay out of the argument (or at least have not declared their interest that I know )
Those that already agreed with you may continue to support you but as I said - you have made the club look bad & exaggerated what they may have felt was an insignificant spat so they may have changed their stance against you for that reason alone
those that did not care probably now dislike you for upsetting the mood of the club

You have gained the support of the forum, but they do not count- other than they now believe your club to be a poorly run one or one with a real "click" which is one of the worse things in a club, whether perceived or true

Do you really think you have gained support within the club & do you not think that you have made the club look bad to the sailing community & damaged the club
Certainly a good reason to add to those they had for wanting you out
Do you not think that you have given some bullets for the committee to shoot you with & they would be well justified in kicking you out -for a different reason to the original one
 
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Daydream believer said:
But have we just not heard your side of the story & whilst that statement sounds bad it is important to know the committee's take on the case
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DB, believe it or not I am not actually an unreasonable person.

The Committee were given ample opportunities to state their case long before anything was mentioned on this forum. It was only due to their complete refusal to respond and/or abide by their own rules that documents were then published on this forum.

You can obtain an opinion on their intentions by reading their letter threatening expulsion which is extremely vague to say the least and certainly does not state any precise reasons.
 
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Daydream believer said:
But all organisations rely on a committee of sorts & many would not run without. Do you not think that you are being unfair to those that take the time to put something into the club rather than ride on the back of others
that being said - one of the best clubs I am member of ( not sailing) is run by one man-- But woe betide any one who crosses him
A lot to be said for dictatorships[/QUOTE

They do of sorts, but these sorts can be across a large spectrum of different mechanisms.
Being unfair, Mmmmm ? Yes and No would have to be my answer. But I've been there and got the tee shirt !!

Committee's are committee's. Analogy . . . they wanted a race horse and bought a camel.

Exactly, you don't always need a committee to have a well run establishment/club/whatever and at least you know the nature of the beast and where he's coming from.
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I suppose we should thank NickC for posting such entertaining threads. Going back a page or so I have to say this guy seems to be someone who could fall out with himself and it would be better for all concerned - even him, if he were no longer a member.

The simple fact that he has gone public and damaged the club should be enough for him to be thrown out.
 
Pete54 said:
The simple fact that he has gone public and damaged the club should be enough for him to be thrown out.
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Your argument, then, is that the committee of a club should be able to do whatever they like without any fear of public criticism, even if it damages the club? Isn't that much the same argument which meant that the Bristol child heart surgery scandal whistleblower (an anaesthetist) never worked again while the surgeons whose ineptitude leads to numerous deaths got awards?

If the committee had not behaved outrageously, no public statements could damage the club.
 
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