Gary Fox
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That's going to bankrupt Greenpiece if they are legally forced to retrieve them..
Anchoring problem in Brighton
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Frogmogman
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Article about this in today's Grauniad by Hugh F-W.
If the UK government won't stop industrial fishing from destroying our oceans, activists will | Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall
If the UK government won't stop industrial fishing from destroying our oceans, activists will | Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall
Gary Fox
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In days gone past, we used to mine the coasts to deter enemy vessels.
With today's hi-tech ordnance, it would be straightforward to record the acoustic signature of each supertrawler, and programme the mines accordingly.
With today's hi-tech ordnance, it would be straightforward to record the acoustic signature of each supertrawler, and programme the mines accordingly.
Mark-1
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Greenpeace expands boulder barrier in marine protected area as government fails to strengthen safeguards | Greenpeace UK
"Greenpeace UK notified all the relevant marine authorities immediately upon deploying each boulder to ensure safety for all mariners operating in the area."
The fact they did it for each boulder suggests positions are known. In which case I can't see how it stops trawling.
Also no mention of Greenpeace recovering them. Which makes me think that's not true.
PS, this is 45km offshore, not really my definition of 'off Brighton'.
"Greenpeace UK notified all the relevant marine authorities immediately upon deploying each boulder to ensure safety for all mariners operating in the area."
The fact they did it for each boulder suggests positions are known. In which case I can't see how it stops trawling.
Also no mention of Greenpeace recovering them. Which makes me think that's not true.
PS, this is 45km offshore, not really my definition of 'off Brighton'.
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Mark-1
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Can we not blow up the Russian ones please? (I've seen "Enemy at the Gates", I really don't want WW3.)
Frogmogman
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"Can we not" is a bit ambiguous.
I'd hate for WWIII to kick off over a misunderstanding....
LONG_KEELER
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alan_d
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I don't think you can compare trawling to any kind of farming. Fishing is industrial-strength hunting/gathering.
Stemar
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And totally non-selective. If the money boys were on board, I'd vote for torpedoing them, but a good proportion of the crews are likely to fit the definition of modern slavery, and they don't deserve that.
mm42
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A few runs with Olex will soon show the trawler men where they are.
LadyInBed
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A new reef, when it's established will be great for divers.
WoodyP
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I have been out on a shrimp trawler. The amount of by catch of juvenile bass and other fish was astonishing. Our fishing industry is not interested in the long term good of the environment. The small value of the shellfish industry is not going to persuade me that the damage that they wreak is worthwhile.
Pete7
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Create a few homes for sea creatures too in what looks like a fairly flat bottom and a feature for fish to hide behind out of the tide. Why are they pissing around with small rocks? there is 70ft of concrete sitting on the bottom of Brixham harbour at the moment which needs shifting.
Ravi
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yes, it is the FOREIGN supertrawlers. note that they are FOREIGN. They have no UK ownership, crew or contractual dealings. it is the nasty FOREIGN supertrawlers. There are no bad BRITISH supertrawlers. All BRITISH supertrawlers are good and super.
And, as you point out, anything that is not the fault of FOREIGN supertrawlers is undoubtedly the fault of FOREIGN "illegal immigrants".
You are also completely right that it is all the fault of the city of Brighton who have had the temerity to continue to vote - for decades in a row - for Green party politicians. How dare they exercise their democratic right to vote for who they want. Outrageous! To do something like that, they must surely be foreign!
longjohnsilver
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Hardly even hunting, the prey have a chance with hunting, it’s all about the gathering in huge quantities
WoodyP
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Also to keep going until the population crashes, then blame everything else and move on to another species.
Gary Fox
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By what practical and legal methods can this industrial-scale over-fishing be controlled?
We can't use legal action or force in other countries' waters.
Our own supine namby-pamby government won't do anything.
Greenpeace have raised a bit of awareness with the boulder stunt, whatever, but nothing will change without determined legal action, physically enforced by armed vessels.
We can't use legal action or force in other countries' waters.
Our own supine namby-pamby government won't do anything.
Greenpeace have raised a bit of awareness with the boulder stunt, whatever, but nothing will change without determined legal action, physically enforced by armed vessels.
Pete7
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We can't control other countries waters, well not any more though we might have done in the days of the Empire.
However, we do attempt to control our own waters:
Overseas Patrol Squadron | Royal Navy
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I don't think I appreciated how big these super trawlers are until this picture. I'm with the environment to a point, need to eat but need to do it with minimal damage so preserving the environment the food develops in, obviously you'd think. Do we in the UK even eat what they trawl for?
Rappey
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I believe the fisheries protection vessel that does or did operate out of portsmouth was quite active as used to hear fisherman moaning about being bored and checked.
