Whitelighter
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Makes a Moody 41 specced up at £200k seem pretty god value.
I do like that boat...
I do like that boat...
YM test of GT35
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eddystone
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Are you sure about that, given a new Rustler 36 is well over £200K? I would have thought there would be at least a few takers for a new Starlight 35 but haven't heard of any new ones being built (whereas a few C32s and Sadler 32s have been built in last few years where moulds also still exist).
eddystone
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Makes a Moody 41 specced up at £200k seem pretty god value.
I do like that boat...
Cored construction above (balsa) and below (foam) waterline? take some convincing about that.
Joker
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I had a look at the GT 35 website.
Horrendously ugly.
Horrendously ugly.
JumbleDuck
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It's the blandness which amazes me. The Varianta 37 has tons more style, and that's designed as a super-simple, basic, cheap-as-chips (about 1/4 of the price of the GT35, iirc) boat.
Still, I expect some of the bonus boys will buy 'em with their profits from wrecking the economy, just to show they can.
Twister_Ken
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It's a good example of why a few stripes - cove line and above the waterline - are so common. They help break up the look of the towering topsides.
Someone asked the price of a tricked-up* HR 342. My guess, today, would be around £235K, based on having priced one up in 2009 when it came out just south of £200K. Even at that price, they haven't been selling like hotcakes.
*HR's optional extra list is very long, and very expensive, and the standard fit-out is rather sparse. At least, that's how it was 5 years ago.
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rogerball0
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I gotta say at that price point you'd be expecting something quite incredible, looking at the one and only picture of the boats interior it looks no different to a hanse (nothing against hanse of course) which can be had for considerably less, the exterior looks beyond bland when comparing with the likes of bav / jen / pogo / rm etc.
I cant help but wonder who would pay that sort of money for a boat who's design and style is so completely indistinguishable from the volume builders?
A very tough sell in these market conditions.
I cant help but wonder who would pay that sort of money for a boat who's design and style is so completely indistinguishable from the volume builders?
A very tough sell in these market conditions.
JumbleDuck
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Rich people don't necessarily have style - quite the reverse, in fact. Look at what the motorboat builders will sell you for a million quid: saloons modelled on the Virgin Trains First Class Lounge at Euston and cabins with all the grace and charm of a Travelodge.
Of course the Versace-style bling world is out there, but for many people very expensive blandness is all they want, or possibly all they know.
rogerball0
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I couldn't agree more JD but this GT seems a missed opportunity when you look at what the likes of yards in France are turning out; for all the endless debates about sea-worthiness of bene's and jeanneau's they do have a knack for building visually interesting boats, personal favorite (for form and function in equal measure) has to be the likes of Pogo and RM, i mean RM makes twin keelers look awesome, and the insides are just as stylish imo.
Twister_Ken
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Adding individuality (or what marketing people call product differentiation)…
…Given that the Snookster kept going on about how deep and secure the cockpit felt, why not capitalise on that and go a bit further than HR? Provide a windscreen and a hard top giving real shelter for the front half of the cockpit. There could also be a drop down screen to close it off when parked. Luvverly for northern waters. That might be a bit more wallet-loosening than yet another bog-standard boat.
…Given that the Snookster kept going on about how deep and secure the cockpit felt, why not capitalise on that and go a bit further than HR? Provide a windscreen and a hard top giving real shelter for the front half of the cockpit. There could also be a drop down screen to close it off when parked. Luvverly for northern waters. That might be a bit more wallet-loosening than yet another bog-standard boat.
JumbleDuck
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Just as all cockpits did until the need to fit a double "cabin" or two underneath became paramount?
Twister_Ken
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Sorry - going back in time is not an option unless you're Dr Whom.
JumbleDuck
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Perhaps. I was amused to see the quarter berths in the YM used boat test referred to as "pilot berths". Kids today, eh?
doris
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£140k buys a very well sorted nearly new 342 no probs.
doris
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Was chatting to one of my neighbours with a new Bav36 Cruiser this morning. He daren't use the fairleads cos when in Brixham recently a bit of swell pulled the toe rail off. Its only secured with self tappers! A good measure of build quality.
You pays your money and .....etc.
doris
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The GT has a much larger interior(no inner moulding and more modern thinking), sails significantly better and only costs marginally more than a new Starlight. Give Rustlers a call and check out the price, you will be astounded.
JumbleDuck
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Could you define "modern thinking", please?
Twister_Ken
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Could it be the thinking that Stephen Jones has done on refining and improving boats in the 23 years between his Starlight 35 design and his GT35 design?
JumbleDuck
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doris
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It was specifically referring to the interior. Here's a Starlight 35
I think this snap shows very well how more room there is in the GT.
Mr Jones is very good at creating interior volume without creating bathtubs. I am told that the buyer of GT hull no. 2 was going for the 39 but having seen the 35 is more than happy with the size.
I still gulp a bit at the price but how much for a HR 37, or similar Najad, Malo. A Rustler 36 is way north of 200 for a boat that comes from the seventies. How much would a Gunfleet 35 be if they made one?
Do agree with the comments about the RM. Their 1260 is yummy!
