Yacht down

[Jamie Dundee]

Certainly an interesting forecast to attempt to sail north towards Ardrossan.

Especially as I believe they’d only owned the boat for a week. Went and had a look at the wreck this morning which has washed up on the shore. Only two turns of pot line around the prop, a shaft mounted rope cutter would probably have saved the day.

 

[purplerobbie]

Any ideas what make of boat it is? Difficult to identify from the pictures.

She was my boat. I sold her 2 weeks ago and the new owner was taking her to Scotland. She was a Kalik 40

 

[KevinV]

She was my boat. I sold her 2 weeks ago and the new owner was taking her to Scotland. She was a Kalik 40

Nice, well sorted looking boat, what a waste

 

[cherod]

Another lobster pot incident

 

[Iliade]

Pot layers should be required to be secured to their gear at all times IMHO!
My first boat was especially vulnerable to floating debris and I must have had to remove trash from the prop once a fortnight, often at night.
As for the people laying gear off Lands End with markers that submerge when the tide runs, they should be chained to a half-tide rock with a spoon for company...

 

[robmcg]

She was my boat. I sold her 2 weeks ago and the new owner was taking her to Scotland. She was a Kalik 40

Such a shock for you as the previous owner

 

[Jamie Dundee]

She was my boat. I sold her 2 weeks ago and the new owner was taking her to Scotland. She was a Kalik 40

Heartbreaking to see it wrecked on the beach. A couple of us gathered up a few bits and put them out of the reach of the tide.

 

[purplerobbie]

On the way to the Isle of Man in 2018

 

[purplerobbie]

all the pictures I have are too high a resolution to post on here.

 

[LONG_KEELER]

You must be joking.
Big tides as well so half the passage likely to be wind against tide. 10 hrs trip in snotty horrible wet cold conditions.
Agree about Douglas being a better option but not setting off at all would have been far better

And I thought that Claymore's motto was ...........
"Smoke me a kipper ,I'll be back for breakfast"

They are all ok . That's the important thing.

 

[cherod]

The most important thing , but not the only important thing , the people have lost their boat , i expect that is quite important to them , i dint understand how fishermen can get away with some of their careless no thot for other users and their environmental behaviour , some waters / areas are virtually no go areas at night or in heavy weather

 

[[3889]]

You must be joking.
Big tides as well so half the passage likely to be wind against tide. 10 hrs trip in snotty horrible wet cold conditions.
Agree about Douglas being a better option but not setting off at all would have been far better

No joking . Do you not think you should anticipate meeting those conditions if you do a transat, which many 12m boats do? Not suggesting it's a suitable passage if you're sailing with your maiden aunt but it's certainly not reckless.

 

[capnsensible]

I suppose the whole go or don't go decision was made by the skipper with knowledge way outside anyone on here is privy to. So subjective and in my opinion (see what I did there) can't be criticised.

Pot markers are a hazard in coastal waters world wide and one of those things we, as yachtsmen, have to put up with. Will never change.

As I see it, the crew had awful bad luck leading to an entirely unpredictable hull loss. If it was me I would be flippin annoyed. But very happy the crew in my care were safe.

 

[Chae_73]

No joking . Do you not think you should anticipate meeting those conditions if you do a transat, which many 12m boats do?

Perhaps one of those situations where the land is more treacherous than the sea?

 

[Kukri]

Perhaps one of those situations where the land is more treacherous than the sea?

Agreed.

I have set out on a passage in those conditions on a boat that I hadn’t owned for very long so there but for the Grace of God go I.

I am rapidly developing a fear of pot markers.

 

[capnsensible]

Unfortunately there is plenty of stuff in the world's oceans that can get wrapped around your propellor. Its happen to me on three separate transats.....

 

[Kukri]

Unfortunately there is plenty of stuff in the world's oceans that can get wrapped around your propellor. Its happen to me on three separate transats.....

Yes, but losing the use of the engine off soundings is just another job to do in the next calm spell. Losing the engine close inshore in the dark can be goodbye boat and perhaps crew.

 

[Wing Mark]

Awful for anyone to lose a boat.

I am surprised the RNLI left the boat at anchor. Maybe it was not their decision, but I would have expected, if conditions are too much for the inshore LB to tow a 12m yacht, said yacht is more than a little at risk at anchor. Was there no possibility of a commercial tow?

It seems obvious that what's needed if a rope stops your prop is sails working pronto, but as has been said above, we were not there and can only speculate.
There is usually a lot more to a story than what's in the papers.

 

[Bajansailor]

Unfortunately there is plenty of stuff in the world's oceans that can get wrapped around your propellor. Its happen to me on three separate transats.....

Not to mention floating stuff to bump into - apart from the popular stories about the semi submerged containers, there are also a lot of massive tree trunks floating around out there - I counted three that had been washed up recently on the east coast here when I took my dogs for a walk one evening a few days ago.
And some of them are proper trees with branches - if you sail into them, the only way to escape might be to go backwards.

 

[capnsensible]

Yes, but losing the use of the engine off soundings is just another job to do in the next calm spell. Losing the engine close inshore in the dark can be goodbye boat and perhaps crew.

Indeed. Sailing out of a situation as you indicate is a challenge with reprecussions if you get it wrong. I'm all too familiar with engine failure....
Offshore you may need to free a propellor off to get the engine started to re charge batteries if the alternator is your sole source. Jammed in gear.
All part of the game!