Just_sayin'
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I don’t think I’ll ever complain again about it being a "bit rough’ in the Channel.
Such brave men.I don’t think I’ll ever complain again about it being a "bit rough’ in the Channel.
Well worth a visit. In fact the whole museum is great.
Well worth a visit. In fact the whole museum is great.
As a slight thread drift, HMS Alliance was my the first submarine on which my dad served, when she was a brand new boat. For his 80th birthday, with the help of the then curator and an outside caterer, we were able to organize a surprise dinner on board after the museum had closed. A truly memorable occasion.
Sure, but see also Churchill on every service. He wasn't going to diss anyone in the middle of a war.Of all the branches of men in the forces there is none which shows more devotion and faces grimmer perils than the submariners.
— Winston Churchill
Hard to argue with what he said about submariners though.Sure, but see also Churchill on every service. He wasn't going to diss anyone in the middle of a war.
Oh, I'm sure submarining in the 40s was a horrible way to spend a war, and would have been grim and perilous. But I'm pretty sure flying bomber over the flak fields of northern Europe, sailing through the Baltic or driving a tank through the deserts wasn't much fun either.Hard to argue with what he said about submariners though.
I think that an "acceptable" attrition rate for bomber crews was around 3%, and that many of the nastier missions had over 5%. With that kind of odds, it meant that your chances of survival, if you did an average number of missions, wasn't very good.Oh, I'm sure submarining in the 40s was a horrible way to spend a war, and would have been grim and perilous. But I'm pretty sure flying bomber over the flak fields of northern Europe, sailing through the Baltic or driving a tank through the deserts wasn't much fun either.
Overall the casualty rate in Bomber Command was around 50%, I believe the highest of any of the services. Unless the Far East in Malaya Burma etc. was worse?I think that an "acceptable" attrition rate for bomber crews was around 3%, and that many of the nastier missions had over 5%. With that kind of odds, it meant that your chances of survival, if you did an average number of missions, wasn't very good.
MY father-in-law was with a ground attack squadron during the invasion of Holland and Germany; he was an armourer. He had all sorts of war stories - but he wouldn't talk about aircrew; too many didn't come back.
Well worth a visit. In fact the whole museum is great.
As a slight thread drift, HMS Alliance was the first submarine on which my dad served, when she was a brand new boat. For his 80th birthday, with the help of the then curator and an outside caterer, we were able to organize a surprise dinner on board after the museum had closed. A truly memorable occasion.
Me as well!Thanks for posting this video. I have visited Thomas Bradbent in Huddersfield. They took a lead role in the production of the x types and X20 was built by them. It was also off the Normandy beaches at the same time as X23.
Part of the old factory is literally a covered street between rows of the old mill town houses. During wartime many planning shortcuts were taken to support the war effort.
I am full of admiration of anyone that is prepared to climb into a steel tube or confined space of any sort and carry out any function.
I still have flashbacks to being trapped in a hollow tree trunk as a young child and just can't do enclosed spaces.