Wooden Yachts?

[Ninpo]

Does anyone here live aboard a wooden yacht?

How do the compare with GRP?
I've seen this, she looks stunning, I love the decking, is it possible to put teak decking on a GRP Yacht?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sailing-Yacht-/190638167545?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sailing_Boats_ET&hash=item2c62eb95f9

More Pics of inside, it looks well kept, bags of character!
http://www.bristolwebdesigner.com/yacht_weaver_pics.pdf

 

[Vercetti]

I'm hoping for some positive feedback on the woodies - as I've been bidding on this one

 

[Ninpo]

I'm hoping for some positive feedback on the woodies - as I've been bidding on this one

As I see, she looks amazing!

 

[V1701]

That one on ebay looks a nice wee boat, good engine & he says the sails are good, is there no reserve? I assume people go and see boats on ebay that they are bidding on though. Generally wooden boats are more maintenance than GRP, tend to be older (often long keel) designs and less roomy for length. You can have teak decks on GRP boats but they're expensive and problematic, best avoided in most people's opinions I think it would be fair to say...

 

[TQA]

Does anyone here live aboard a wooden yacht?

How do the compare with GRP?
I've seen this, she looks stunning, I love the decking, is it possible to put teak decking on a GRP Yacht?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sailing-Yacht-/190638167545?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sailing_Boats_ET&hash=item2c62eb95f9

More Pics of inside, it looks well kept, bags of character!
http://www.bristolwebdesigner.com/yacht_weaver_pics.pdf

I am in my 10 year as a full time liveaboard.

You could not PAY me to cruise on a wooden boat. Well I suppose every man has his price but mine would be close to 6 figures p.a. to cruise on a wooden boat.

 

[RupertW]

I am in my 10 year as a full time liveaboard.

You could not PAY me to cruise on a wooden boat. Well I suppose every man has his price but mine would be close to 6 figures p.a. to cruise on a wooden boat.

I'd be very interested to know why. I loved family wooden boats as a student because I had all those spare weeks to varnish and caulk and paint, patch deck canvas and rebuild the furniture etc etc. However once I started work it was time to ask Dad move to GRP, and I've owned plastic boats ever since.

To me the issue was firstly time, and as a live aboard you would have that, and secondly the time away from the boat meant that little problems requiring 10 minutes work became problems needing a couple of hours.

 

[daveyw]

That's been "sold" before. Might want to check his negative feed back and contact previous "buyer"

 

[maby]

Wooden boats are lovely - provided they belong to a close friend!

 

[pyrojames]

I sailed my 1965 timber yacht from Oz to the UK. Laid decks, lots of varnish etc. Once living on board it was actually easier to keep up the maintenance than it was when at a home base all the time. I sold it 6 years ago and bought an older larger one. I wouldn't have anything else.

 

[Vercetti]

That's been "sold" before. Might want to check his negative feed back and contact previous "buyer"

Good point, I did that a couple of days ago but yet to recieve a reply from the previous "buyer"...

So I won the boat today, in quite suspicious conditions I must admit...
My max bid was £1600, and I won it for £1550. Shortly afterwards I recieved an email from eBay warning me that there was potentially "shillbidding" going on.

In other words, seller may have been using another account to slowly bump bids up. Looking through the bid history, I can see 1 bidder who may have been doing just that.

Disappointed...

 

[srm]

Having sailed and maintained old wood boats I now sail and live on a grp boat of an old fashioned narrow beam, long keel, seaworthy design. However, I love seeing old wooden boats - but they do tend to become an all consuming way of life and are neglected at your peril.

 

[SHUG]

Wooden boats are lovely - provided they belong to a close friend!

Never a truer word spoken!!!!!

 

[Boo2]

Good point, I did that a couple of days ago but yet to recieve a reply from the previous "buyer"...

So I won the boat today, in quite suspicious conditions I must admit...
My max bid was £1600, and I won it for £1550. Shortly afterwards I recieved an email from eBay warning me that there was potentially "shillbidding" going on.

In other words, seller may have been using another account to slowly bump bids up. Looking through the bid history, I can see 1 bidder who may have been doing just that.

Disappointed...

Well good luck, she's a snip at that price if it all pans out.

Boo2

 

[Vercetti]

No luck I'm afraid.
I gave the seller a call to arrange collection yesterday evening, and he claimed that he wanted payment within 48 hours of auction ending, and as I was 8 hours overdue, he's now sent second chance offers to other people - although he would be happy to sell it to me if I paid the whole amount immediately by Paypal.... Needless to say - I said no.

Just had word from the previous "buyer" and he claims the same thing happened to him, the seller wanted the whole amount immediately through paypal....

I've used eGay for years and this is the first time I've come across a seller like that, shame really - as it looks like a great little boat! Just makes you wonder what his deal is and what he may be hiding...

Anyway, the search continues...

 

[lenseman]

On my pontoon in Haslar, there is a wooden boat with a liveaboard and the yacht is fabulous, very warm inside unlike GRP which cools down quite quickly.

The yacht was built in 1936 and will probably outlast any plastic boat currently afloat!

 

[upcountry2]

No luck I'm afraid.
I gave the seller a call to arrange collection yesterday evening, and he claimed that he wanted payment within 48 hours of auction ending, and as I was 8 hours overdue, he's now sent second chance offers to other people - although he would be happy to sell it to me if I paid the whole amount immediately by Paypal.... Needless to say - I said no.

Just had word from the previous "buyer" and he claims the same thing happened to him, the seller wanted the whole amount immediately through paypal....

I've used eGay for years and this is the first time I've come across a seller like that, shame really - as it looks like a great little boat! Just makes you wonder what his deal is and what he may be hiding...

Anyway, the search continues...

I too looked at this boat, it did seem to good to be true at this price, i know it's a wooden boat, and there's possibly not the interest that there would be for a comparable grp boat,but.... It sold to a previous buyer, whom you mention for £2500, this time £1550, what will it reach next time?
I spent considerable time and effort getting to see this boat, and largely was not dissappointed, although the rig was not in my opinion substantial enough for a boat of this displacement, hardly bigger in section than the rig of a Wayfarer dinghy, but for the price it would likely reach, worth a punt.[ i did'nt get to see the interior]
After reading the comments on here, i decided not to bid, although i fail to see what the seller hopes to achieve by insisting on paypal, and not pound notes on handover.
Perhaps he is a very untrusting sort of guy, but surley that works both ways?
I may be a bit naive here, but if you were to pay the full amount by paypal, are you not covered against loss if it all goes pear shaped?
What do you think?....
It's a shame though, nice boat for someone with the time and inclination to maintain, for not a lot of money...
Best Wishes.

 

[Vercetti]

I may be a bit naive here, but if you were to pay the full amount by paypal, are you not covered against loss if it all goes pear shaped?
What do you think?....

In theory - yes, although it's not always that simple.

When you open a paypal dispute, you have 2 options
1) Item not received
2) Item not as described

If you pick option 1, then they will ask the seller to provide a tracking number to prove the item was sent (yes even for a boat)
All a fraudster has to do is sent you an empty box via CityLink or other courier and Paypal will see that he's posted the item - and his deal is done. He keeps the money, case closed. Paypal have no time or interest in investigating the fact that boats/cars cannot be sent using CityLink etc... (the old brick in a box scam)

So your left with option 2, in which case you write everything thats happened to them, and they will then contact the seller and ask for his side of the story. If he's a smart fraudster - he will lie through his teeth and make up a good story. After which the case is left in the air until some Paypal worker reads it, decides who he believes and makes a ruling, after which the case is closed (if his story is good, he will keep the money)

Both these options can take up to a month to resolve (without knowing what the outcome may be) and I personally don't want thousands of my hard earned money sitting in the air waiting.

Let's not also forget the fact that if he's a deliberate fraudster, he may receive the money, empty the Paypal account or even close it... Then Paypal has no funds to recover. Leaving you out of pocket

If your unfortunate enough to have this happen to you, all your left with is calling the police and asking them to investigate - but how long will that take?

You would have more protection if you pay by Credit Card through Paypal, in which case you can take it up with your credit company, but even that isn't always foolproof and can take a long time.

I had to learn all this the hard way when I made a living through selling/buying on eBay and Paypal, and as a result I now only use Paypal for smallish payments - up to £100

 

[Ninpo]

On my pontoon in Haslar, there is a wooden boat with a liveaboard and the yacht is fabulous, very warm inside unlike GRP which cools down quite quickly.

The yacht was built in 1936 and will probably outlast any plastic boat currently afloat!

I thought that Wooden boats were probably better at retaining heat than GRP yachts.

Good to know that I was right haha!