Women Skippers

Because she is a women or
doug748 said:
I let my wife/girlfriend/ significant other helm the boat twice, she put it aground both times.

Now, I said nothing, and am just saying now.

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Because she is a woman or because she lacks experience?
 
cherod said:
Not only is she a woman ( from birth i believe ) but also a member of the llbgt++ group , fully qualified and ticketed ( see other thread ) and an englander 🙄. It seems that the NZ navy is a bit slow in learning their lessons as previously another similarly qualified , minority grouped and nationalised woman has crashed another navy boat into a stationary object ( a wharf i believe 😳) with considerable damage . But if course , to show impartiality , it is not unusual for fully ticketed navy ( of various countries ) personnel to crash their vessels often with tragic results .
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She’s certainly not the first human to crash a boat. Pretty sure that dubious privilege is going to belong to someone with a Y chromosome.
 
cherod said:
Not only is she a woman ( from birth i believe ) but also a member of the llbgt++ group , fully qualified and ticketed ( see other thread ) and an englander 🙄. It seems that the NZ navy is a bit slow in learning their lessons as previously another similarly qualified , minority grouped and nationalised woman has crashed another navy boat into a stationary object ( a wharf i believe 😳) with considerable damage . But if course , to show impartiality , it is not unusual for fully ticketed navy ( of various countries ) personnel to crash their vessels often with tragic results .
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At least she speaks English.....
 
Last time I visted the UK I chartered a boat from Portsmouth where the skipper was a very nice lady, and the other crew was 2 men and a woman from the caridean.

All were very good sailors, and we complied with the skippers' orders while on board
 
SWMBO is Nav officer and I in the main chuck stuff around and try to stop it banging into things. Works very well....most of the time.
 
One of the best yacht skippers I ever met was a tiny lady called Georgina. She worked for the Trinity Sailing Trust doing courses on 'Golden Vanity' which is a small Brixham Trawler and was 100 years old in 2008. First Mate and I did our final sail training with Georgina, FM Dazed Kipper, Me Coastal Kipper. Georgina was a consumate seaperson and ALWAYS had everything under control while giving the trainee's confidence in themselves and their work. Just as it should be. The grub was good too...........................

After a great week on the Gaff Cutter, our Gibsea 96 felt like a toy!
 
Coming back to this thread for the first time since the first few posts, I find there has been what strikes me a completely unnecessary and unwarranted pile-on against Wansworth. It seems to me that his original post was in jest (the laughing emoji was just one clue), and somewhat in the manner that we tease one another based on the stereotypes of stinkpots and raggies, etc.

Even were his views on women a trifle antediluvian, for which I have no evidence at all (and he himself has remarked in this thread and on several previous occasions the relative absence of women sailors in his part of Spain), he would not be alone in that. (One only has to look at the Jokes thread, and numerous quips elsewhere, to find evidence.)

Methinks some doth protest too much, and wonder whether the excessive zeal which some promote their views or supposed credentials, or leap to condemn others, is perhaps part of the reason that so few women post much or stay long on this forum.

I think women (yea even unto those who are also blonde and/or mother-in-laws) are equally capable of being good skippers and/or crew or shipwrights or admirals, but it is undeniable that there was certainly only a few decades ago a strong cultural (and perhaps economic) bias that generally speaking (there were always exceptions) discouraged them from such roles and encouraged them into others.

My impression is that has changed, but only in part. Perhaps my experience isn't fully representative, but in boatyards, marinas, mooring fields, chandlers, sailing clubs, yachting magazines and adverts, on sailing forums, and out on the water, it is men by far I most often see, and even when they're in mixed most often see taking a 'leading' role.

I hope that gender bias will continue to change, and in the meantime we can be a bit more friendly and tolerant towards those who we perceive or misperceive to have views different to our own.
 
LittleSister said:
Coming back to this thread for the first time since the first few posts, I find there has been what strikes me a completely unnecessary and unwarranted pile-on against Wansworth. It seems to me that his original post was in jest (the laughing emoji was just one clue), and somewhat in the manner that we tease one another based on the stereotypes of stinkpots and raggies, etc.

Even were his views on women a trifle antediluvian, for which I have no evidence at all (and he himself has remarked in this thread and on several previous occasions the relative absence of women sailors in his part of Spain), he would not be alone in that. (One only has to look at the Jokes thread, and numerous quips elsewhere, to find evidence.)

Methinks some doth protest too much, and wonder whether the excessive zeal which some promote their views or supposed credentials, or leap to condemn others, is perhaps part of the reason that so few women post much or stay long on this forum.

I think women (yea even unto those who are also blonde and/or mother-in-laws) are equally capable of being good skippers and/or crew or shipwrights or admirals, but it is undeniable that there was certainly only a few decades ago a strong cultural (and perhaps economic) bias that generally speaking (there were always exceptions) discouraged them from such roles and encouraged them into others.

My impression is that has changed, but only in part. Perhaps my experience isn't fully representative, but in boatyards, marinas, mooring fields, chandlers, sailing clubs, yachting magazines and adverts, on sailing forums, and out on the water, it is men by far I most often see, and even when they're in mixed most often see taking a 'leading' role.

I hope that gender bias will continue to change, and in the meantime we can be a bit more friendly and tolerant towards those who we perceive or misperceive to have views different to our own.
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Well thank you I must admit to being absent from the forum as I am now a yacht owner although I am now embroiled in buying a car.
 
Wansworth said:
My late father and mother although coming of age at the beginning of of the late sixties boating boom didn’t have a copy of this tome……how did they manage🤔😂
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People in those days were generally adept at 'managing'. (It must have been something in the water. ;) )

People these days don't need (or want?) to manage, as there's endless videos online telling you how to do pretty much anything. (Though there's always a few mavericks determined to launch off into the blue, literally or metaphorically, without having their style cramped by anyone who knows anything about whatever it is!)

I doubt, though, that many of today's videos would have the practical insight and wisdom that Joyce Sleightholme conveyed in her book (dated though that now is in many ways). It would also take many more hours of video watching to cover the same ground than it would take to read the book (not least because of being easier to identify in a book what's coming, what's of interest, and the sections you don't need, or prefer to come back to later).
 
LittleSister said:
not least because of being easier to identify in a book what's coming, what's of interest, and the sections you don't need, or prefer to come back to later)
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You clearly don’t watch YouTube, which enables chapter markers, contents and many other easy to access methods including direct linking to the video frame from anywhere. It’s ok to prefer books, but don’t knock other platforms you don’t understand.
 
I am quite interested to see ladies skippering boats. It is a good thing because it is important that both boat parties can handle the boat.
However, at club level & coastal sailing, where many ladies are running the show I suspect that when the chips are down and a serious emergency arises the man may well take charge again.
I may be wrong but it would be interesting to hear the view of those who, in normal circumstances, are happy to be lead by the lady.
 
lustyd said:
You clearly don’t watch YouTube, which enables chapter markers, contents and many other easy to access methods including direct linking to the video frame from anywhere. It’s ok to prefer books, but don’t knock other platforms you don’t understand.
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Books work without electricity or anything ,just open it….In defense of Littlesister though he can no doubt fight his own corner why do you have to get socross😏🤔
 
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