Blue Sunray
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Why?
winterising boat in lockdown I’m getting worried ????
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Orthop
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But how should it go on? Lockdown-normal life-Lockdown and so on...until we find a vaccine?
We have to learn to live with this situation for a certain time maybe years...
@ alandaluss11 :
I´m with you, not the boaters caused this situation. But we unfortunately have to live with the mistakes und stupidness of other people. So we don´t have to think what is happening in 4 weeks, we have to look more forward...
We have to learn to live with this situation for a certain time maybe years...
@ alandaluss11 :
I´m with you, not the boaters caused this situation. But we unfortunately have to live with the mistakes und stupidness of other people. So we don´t have to think what is happening in 4 weeks, we have to look more forward...
alandalus11
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Halloween: £94k in fines issued in South Yorkshire
The whole country suffers, because of cretins like this. We are discussing boat owners going down to their marina, keeping away from others, being responsible and then you get that. The real problem with this pandemic is not the boat owners but those that continue to gather and disobey social gathering rules. Rather than locking up the whole country in an open prison the government needs to focus on where the problem really lies.
I've had my rant for the day. Out.
The whole country suffers, because of cretins like this. We are discussing boat owners going down to their marina, keeping away from others, being responsible and then you get that. The real problem with this pandemic is not the boat owners but those that continue to gather and disobey social gathering rules. Rather than locking up the whole country in an open prison the government needs to focus on where the problem really lies.
I've had my rant for the day. Out.
bluetooth
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I don't accept that boat owners are no less safe than other people at marinas for ppe and distancing. Basic ppe is all that is needed and other than actually cover the nose and mouth is all that is needed. I've seen allsorts of peeps not able to do this especially the nose. Medical PPE and fit testing is a different matter. Lets not forget marinas are outside so close the toilets again and there is no need to be 2m near anyone.
I don't accept that marinas can reliabily keep a eye of your boat status especially if plugged in for months and certainly won't accept any liability if problems arise from heaters and dehumidifiers plugged in. I don't expect this will be just for 4 weeks. And it is certainly a different marina enviornmemt than in the spring. In marinas where there has been galvanic corrosion and fuses tripping the elec some may be worried and rightly so.
And I do question what the insurance policies and companies will do if lack of maibtenace checks result in problems and claims. This could be a driver for marina visits for boat owners.
Marinas could introduce a booking system to allow limited people to the marina for essential maintenace. Some may laugh but you could even risk assess the potential boat problems and therefore have a valid link to 'health and safety' for allowing visits; the key being the risk assessment and not just quoting H&S without the understanding.
I check my boat most weeks mainly as I drive close by on way to and from work and like to make sure all is well. There is always something that needs doing at some time.
I wasn't concerned in spring as i wasn't plugged in but will be from Thursday.
In summary boat checks and sequelae of poor maintenance checks can and no doubt will incur some massive costs given the machinery onboard, even 30 yr old boats. This is totally different to caravans and second homes. What is the real risk of keeping access open to the marinas in a controlled manner?
(Whoever drives there!)
I don't accept that marinas can reliabily keep a eye of your boat status especially if plugged in for months and certainly won't accept any liability if problems arise from heaters and dehumidifiers plugged in. I don't expect this will be just for 4 weeks. And it is certainly a different marina enviornmemt than in the spring. In marinas where there has been galvanic corrosion and fuses tripping the elec some may be worried and rightly so.
And I do question what the insurance policies and companies will do if lack of maibtenace checks result in problems and claims. This could be a driver for marina visits for boat owners.
Marinas could introduce a booking system to allow limited people to the marina for essential maintenace. Some may laugh but you could even risk assess the potential boat problems and therefore have a valid link to 'health and safety' for allowing visits; the key being the risk assessment and not just quoting H&S without the understanding.
I check my boat most weeks mainly as I drive close by on way to and from work and like to make sure all is well. There is always something that needs doing at some time.
I wasn't concerned in spring as i wasn't plugged in but will be from Thursday.
In summary boat checks and sequelae of poor maintenance checks can and no doubt will incur some massive costs given the machinery onboard, even 30 yr old boats. This is totally different to caravans and second homes. What is the real risk of keeping access open to the marinas in a controlled manner?
(Whoever drives there!)
Croftie
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Because I think it would set a good example if he had done
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Portofino
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Might the rationale by the marina be more of a line of future minimising litigation .
” I caught it at the marina because they did not employ adequate social distance rules or crowd control or alcohol hand wash stations every 10;M or what ever .I can not work due to long corvid and want compo for the dead spouse “
“Add me to the class action law suit “ - touted by the ambulance chasers operate on a no win no fee .Its just so easy to see where the sod it open access may end up .
See it through the marinas owners lawyers eyes .
Greg2
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ashtead
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I am planning my next company meeting on board then . There might be merit in incorporating a pontoon members company with the business objective of negotiating with marina owners much like a tenants association.
bluetooth
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Well that seems sensible, I'm shocked. A good start
bluetooth
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You can apply that to any place allowed to remain open.
The marinas can easily limit access and even accept bookings to access to limit numbers. I think the latter would be a very sensible move. Book a time slot to arrive and leave. I'd be happy to work to that.
Portofino
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You could .
Was thinking those in grey areas that defy the gov at the time advice .A smart arsed barrister might fancy a pop .
Hopefully it’s only a month ?
Bigplumbs
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My boat yard like most others is closing so 3 choices Do it today, Pay them or Wait
Bigplumbs
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I am out of here same as in March. Such a Depressing place
LBRodders
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Its great when you are not here
[thats a joke btw - cheer up you miserable old toad!]
colhel
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The lockdown measures have taken their toll on society and this forum. It's clear we are in exact opposite sides of the fence but our feelings of depression and anxiety are probably equal. I can't see anyway you can convince people like me and I (we) never be able to convince those who share your opinion. So what happens? We all get more angry, more depressed, more anxious.
ATB
Greg2
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Actually many are not closing, particularly those run by larger companies such as MDL and Tingdene. To my mind their approach is entirely appropriate inasmuch as there is access but bertholders are encouraged to operate within Govt guidelines/rules. We will probably disagree on this point but I don’t think that it is for marina operators to police rules or to refuse access to valuable bits of property owned by customers and at a personal level I would object to such an approach as a matter of principle. A moot point perhaps, because I will abide by the rules and have managed to winterise the boat but in extremis, such as a significant storm or tidal event (which are becoming more common on the Broads) I would go to check the boat, but then I can do so with little travel and complete isolation so no risk to anyone.
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longjohnsilver
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I also stuck to the lockdown rules last time, I relied on the Marina to make sure all was well with our boat, and will do the same this time. But like Greg2 as a matter of principle I would be mightily annoyed if my Marina wrote to me saying that were not allowing me to access my property that I’m paying a kings ransom to for the pleasure of parking my boat there. To their credit, they haven’t done this whilst at the same time encouraging their customers to follow government guidance.
Blue Sunray
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Whilst I'm not sure if than can or will endeavour to enforce it in the marinas on the river, Hamble HM had said that they are banning visits to check on boats from midnight tonight.
Greg2
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Like you, I doubt that this is enforceable by them as they are not, as far as I am aware, the competent authority for COVID-19 regulations.