Will Unite kill Felixstowe?

[pvb]

The Unite union has called strikes at Felixstowe docks; only small numbers of workers at the moment, but over half of the employees at the docks are Unite members.

Strike dates set for UK's busiest container port

 

[Yorkshire Exile]

No

 

[Bigplumbs]

I am pleased that the Unions still have some sway to balance the increasing spread of the Right. This is all part of what should be the natural way of things

 

[DavidofMersea]

I am pleased that the Unions still have some sway to balance the increasing spread of the Right. This is all part of what should be the natural way of things

What? You hope to see the unions kill Felixstowe

 

[Old Harry]

What? You hope to see the unions kill Felixstowe

You are misquoting him

 

[Bigplumbs]

He is misquoting indeed. Unions Add to the Quality of a Business if you listen to them and learn. It is when you don't listen that problems happen. This is what kills a business. Very basic rearly based on the simple truth that Management don't know everything and if they listen to workers and treat them right all will benefit........ I rather thought we had all moved out of the 19th Century but perhaps not all quite get it

 

[Bigplumbs]

You are aware that the Chinese own the Port of Felixstowe and indeed Harwich I hope

 

[Bigplumbs]

Happy Christmas by the Way

 

[DavidofMersea]

Unions Add to the Quality of a Business if you listen to them and learn. It is when you don't listen that problems happen. This is what kills a business.

If the union people knew how to manage a business they would be managers, not obstructive striking unions led by the Jeremy Corbyns of this world

 

[DavidofMersea]

You are misquoting him

In what way?

 

[Kukri]

Move along, please, nothing to see here. The port of Felixstowe is owned by the Hong Kong conglomerate Huchison Whampoa, which is controlled by Li KaShing and his family and it has been better run and seen more investment from Huchison than it ever was or did in the hands of British owners like P&O.

Business is no longer booming and there isn’t a magic money tree in the ports business.

Unions in a business can often be a good thing (I’m a union member) and there have been disputes at Felixstowe before now.

 

[DavidofMersea]

Unions in a business can often be a good thing

How? according to the OP they calling a strike

 

[A1Sailor]

How? according to the OP they calling a strike

If you read the article they wish to prevent an unwelcome trend.

 

[Bigplumbs]

Oh Dear someone deffo is back in the 19th

 

[DavidofMersea]

If you read the article they wish to prevent an unwelcome trend.

Presumably the unwelcome trend you refer to is getting a job done more efficently, which will make/keep Felixstowe competitive

 

[Marmalade]

Unions seeking to get a fair deal for their members, ensure members' health and safety, ensure equal pay and conditions, inform businesses about the potential effect of their plans on the workforce, make sure that workers get the best deal possible out of changes to Ts&Cs etc. = good thing.

Unions seeking to tell management how to run a company or blocking innovation, blocking the introduction of new tech, withdrawing labour and damaging the business they themselves rely on for income = bad thing

IMHO

 

[DavidofMersea]

Unions seeking to get a fair deal for their members, ensure members' health and safety, ensure equal pay and conditions, inform businesses about the potential effect of their plans on the workforce, make sure that workers get the best deal possible out of changes to Ts&Cs etc. = good thing.

Unions seeking to tell management how to run a company or blocking innovation, blocking the introduction of new tech, withdrawing labour and damaging the business they themselves rely on for income = bad thing

IMHO

That is a fair sensible post, however, what is "Unions seeking to get a fair deal for their members" is a matter of opinion.

i was in a union once, and I was a square peg in a round hole, and management wanted me out. The union stepped in and fought for me. A fellow worker advised me to find somewhere else to work because I was never going to get on where I was. It was good advive, and I left, which was much better than staying in an unsuitable job, which is what the union were doing

The morale is If you don't like your job and/or management, get another job and stop fighting management, which is what unions encourage workers to do

 

[Old Harry]

You are aware that the Chinese own the Port of Felixstowe and indeed Harwich I hope

Trinity College actually "Own" the site, the operators rent it

 

[Old Harry]

That is a fair sensible post, however, what is "Unions seeking to get a fair deal for their members" is a matter of opinion.

i was in a union once, and I was a square peg in a round hole, and management wanted me out. The union stepped in and fought for me. A fellow worker advised me to find somewhere else to work because I was never going to get on where I was. It was good advive, and I left, which was much better than staying in an unsuitable job, which is what the union were doing

The morale is If you don't like your job and/or management, get another job and stop fighting management, which is what unions encourage workers to do

Ask say, the MBA what it does for it`s members

 

[DavidofMersea]

Ask say, the MBA what it does for it`s members

Who are the MBA, and why can't you tell us what they do for their members?