awol
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Found this in my F'book feed. Apart from diminishing my assets by 469Euros what benefits would this bestow?
Why would I ????
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Gary Fox
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No maritime restrictions? That opens up a whole new world of opportunity..
ProMariner
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Does it let you leave your boat in Europe for more than 180 days?
dunedin
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No, and no
- No, because flag does not affect a boat’s VAT status; and
- No because 180 days is about people, not boats, and relates to nationality and staying in Schengen area.
JumbleDuck
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Owners of big motorboats like to keep them polished.
Sybarite
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Their claims are not true with respect to France at lleast. If your boat is based in France you are subject to the same regulations as French flagged boats.
This measure was brought in several years ago when French owners began registering their boats in Belgium to try to avoid the strict French rules.
This measure was brought in several years ago when French owners began registering their boats in Belgium to try to avoid the strict French rules.
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Are you sure? I kept my UK flagged boat in France from 2013 until last month and it didn't comply with French regs and I was never challenged during several boardings by French authorities.
Stemar
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Tourist euros are a strong argument in favour of a flexible attitude towards enforcement of minor regulations. All the same, it might have been different if you pissed them off.
Ningaloo
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Maybe your residency matters here? My understanding is that if you have foreign flagged boat you must meet the rules of the flag country and not the local rules. But if you are resident you may have to register locally?
Almost every country I can think of has more onerous requirements than the UK where there are so few mandatory safety requirements on vessels below 13.6m.
Almost every country I can think of has more onerous requirements than the UK where there are so few mandatory safety requirements on vessels below 13.6m.
dunedin
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RYA seem to think that cruising yachts would not generally be exempt from local country rules (ie the view that only need to adhere to flag state rules is a myth), as cruising does not generally meet the criteria for “innocent passage”. Law of the Sea and the Coastal State | Boating Abroad | Knowledge & Advice | RYA - Royal Yachting Association
Not spotted the specific reference, but RYA said somewhere that they could not be 100% definitive, at least for countries such as France, as might need somebody to take it to court to prove definitively - but clearly that would be a very risky and expensive route.
sailaboutvic
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I think that not correct many many French owner have their boat flagged in another country .
I can name 6 at less
sailaboutvic
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Agree qhT ever your flag is if there is local laws that says a boat must do this or that you have to abide by them rules , there rule are mostly apply in harbours .
Example Malta insists that dinghy as a clear TT name of boat where it can be seen, many cruiser as our self like to keep the TT under cover as under our chaps so when ashore people can't see which boat it comes from
sailaboutvic
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so what the advantages, as already said it as nothing to do with then90/180 rule or VAT.
I'm considering this my self but it won't be Polish flag , if we find because of our flag that we are being stopped and question on VAT or how long we been in the EU this season we will change , but my gut feeling its not going to come to that in most EU country then only except maybe Greece
I'm considering this my self but it won't be Polish flag , if we find because of our flag that we are being stopped and question on VAT or how long we been in the EU this season we will change , but my gut feeling its not going to come to that in most EU country then only except maybe Greece