Why would anyone legitimately want this outside an outboard repair shop?
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Kelpie
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He's not Foreign Secretary any more...
siwhi
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Yes, it's handy for the parents to have a listening watch on the chatter, though not for those with a nervous disposition. There's usually some adventure afoot with 12 year old's on a trip...fishing hook in arm, outboard out of fuel, lost paddleboard, chased by dogs, sandwiches overboard, and that's on a good day.
mjcoon
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If you've read "Surely You're Joking Mr [Richard] Feynman" then you could add safe-breaking scientist to your list. And that was when he was on the Manhattan Project...
Elessar
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ha ha. I can get into any friends dinghy and use it - you know what I meant! Not very well worded on my part I agree.
Elessar
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my nephew had a lock picking kit for Christmas. Came with the pick tools, some clear locks to practice on and instructions. The fact that I could immediately open a lock just from my memory of the lock picking lawyer rather surprised him.
The wisdom of either buying or selling such a toy I'm sure will cause much debate. Don't shoot the messenger.
stevie69p
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Perhaps 'the promiscuous PM'...
lustyd
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Locks aren’t there for security they’re there for access control so I see no problem with kids learning to pick them. The person breaking into your home wouldn’t waste that much time to pick a lock. Bricks are free and fast
JumbleDuck
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This is why I leave my classic cars unlocked. I would much rather someone simply opened the door and had a poke round than put a window through on their way in. Unless they are carrying a non-standard rotor arm in their pocket they aren't going to get very far anyway ...
Stemar
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I take a similar approach on the boat. There's nothing on board to steal, and I'd rather the local scrotes didn't have to do too much damage finding that out.
Lock picking is a skill that requires time and patience to learn, and more time and patience to use "on site". Skill, time and patience aren't things that tend to go with scrotery.
I was a bit miffed to find that the padlocks I used on my storage, then on the garden gate are so insecure, though. OTOH, having to work on the far side of the gate does increase the difficulty a fair bit, it's bad enough working the bolt when it isn't locked, so I reckon that'll keep out anyone but a safecracker - or someone with a large boot and no fear of making a noise.
Lock picking is a skill that requires time and patience to learn, and more time and patience to use "on site". Skill, time and patience aren't things that tend to go with scrotery.
I was a bit miffed to find that the padlocks I used on my storage, then on the garden gate are so insecure, though. OTOH, having to work on the far side of the gate does increase the difficulty a fair bit, it's bad enough working the bolt when it isn't locked, so I reckon that'll keep out anyone but a safecracker - or someone with a large boot and no fear of making a noise.
mainsail1
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Bear in mind that these are safety keys not security keys. When I lost the safety key for my outboard remote I purchased a set of these as it was difficult to find a "proper" replacement quickly. The remote still had a security key to control starting of the engine which I had not lost.
Gary Fox
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How far would they get in your classic car, even if they did have the correct rotor arm
JumbleDuck
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The DS did Scotland to Switzerland and back in autumn 2017, 2018 and 2019 without missing a beat. Very circuitous routes, too - I don't think any of the trips were less than 3,000 miles, IJmuiden to IJmuiden.How far would they get in your classic car, even if they did have the correct rotor arm
The Herald I'd be a little less confident about, but it has only just come back on the road after a twenty year rebuild. Once I've had a chance to go over it with a box of spanners I expect it to be just as reliable as the DS.
Gary Fox
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Yes sorry I was flippant, I had an early 70's CX, same engine I think. Beautiful and reliable, but it went rotten very quick.
JumbleDuck
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The CX engine is a derivative of the DS one, which is itself a derivative of the 1933 TA engine, but the CX engine rotate the opposite way, which alas limits the possibilities for engine swaps. The chap who does the complicated bits on mine learned his craft when his father owned a Citroën dealership in Newcastle and he says that from new the average DS lasted four years before rotting.
Still it could have been worse. The convertibles were build for Citroën by Chapron (just as Karmann built Beetle convertibles for VW) and because their target market was the south of France they didn't bother with any paint whatsoever on the insides of wings and doors. Bare steel. Lasted a good long time in France but you were lucky to get a year out of one in the UK before holes started appearing.
Oops. Getting a bit off-topic.
Stemar
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OTOH, you didn't get much longer out of a Vauxhall of that era - or an Austin, for that matter.