Why dont you wave at Mobos ?

Poor old Chrusty, where I live, one stops & talks to everyone you meet. Most are neighbours, but some are visitors & all are pleased to chat. It used to be the same when I lived in a terraced house. You knew all the people in the surrounding streets & greeted them all when you passed them in town.

Hiding under the stairs in case you have burglar, rent man or debt collector call is no existence for a civilised man.

Get out & smile at a few people, it's only darn Sarf that people are too frightened to smile or wave back. Tho' even in London I have managed eye contact and reciprocated smiles - it's just that it's sooo much harder work.

Yes I wave at all I pass, most wave back, but MoBo's do seem astonished & don't always respond. If a Mobo is courteous I make the wave big & friendly with a thumbs up as thanks, If they charge past with a big wash, it is a slow down request that they get. Few seem to understand the danger they cause, but so be it; it's their own pig ignorance/ stupidity that they display.
 
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Poor old Chrusty, where I live, one stops & talks to everyone you meet. Most are neighbours, but some are visitors & all are pleased to chat. It used to be the same when I lived in a terraced house. You knew all the people in the surrounding streets & greeted them all when you passed them in town.

Hiding under the stairs in case you have burglar, rent man or debt collector call is no existence for a civilised man.

Get out & smile at a few people, it's only darn Sarf that people are too frightened to smile or wave back. Tho' even in London I have managed eye contact and reciprocated smiles - it's just that it's sooo much harder work.

Yes I wave at all I pass, most wave back, but MoBo's do seem astonished & don't always respond. If a Mobo is courteous I make the wave big & friendly with a thumbs up as thanks, If they charge past with a big wash, it is a slow down request that they get. Few seem to understand the danger they cause, but so be it; it's their own pig ignorance/ stupidity that they display.

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Poor???.......Me???.........Not at all, much prefer not to be waving at a bunch of yotties, in the Solarse it must make your arm ache with all that waving /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I tend not to initiate waving, but always wave at boats who wave at me. Which seems to be most around here, mobo and raggie alike, apart from racers, because their waves always seem to start with an F. So I give them a wide berth.
 
Well it could be to do with the fact that most power-boaters have no idea about inappropriate speed and wash - that's why I don't wave unless in anger. However I will make a point of acknowledging courtesy with a wave from now on.

Returning from the JOG Weymouth race over the w/e as soon as we neared Hamble in they come passing close at 20 knots or so (RIBs included but their wash is less).

What a joy to be away from them on Saturday and the Dorset coast looked really beautiful.

Nothing against you as you may be the most considerate stinkie around but some of your fellow boaters have a lot to answer for - maybe if they look behind and see the boats rolling around it would help but at least we can console ourselves with the thought that their fuel is hugely expensive!
 
I often wave at the big mobos coming out of Calais, sometime get 100 or so waves back.
















P&O seam the best /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I'm a waver, but then again I stop and talk to people in the street and delight in being cheerful to miserable gits I meet on the bus, 'cos it really annoys them.

I don't discriminate between raggies and stinkies either. On our East Coast US liveaboard adventure I generally found people on trawlers and displacement boats more likely to wave and be cheerful than drivers of pointy white plastic things, but not always. There was a noticeable difference between people near large cities and those out in the sticks, which is why I suppose people talk to each other on country walks but sit silently when on trains to work day in day out. If a large fast boat came up and deliberately changed course to limit wash etc etc I would make a point of standing up and clearly waving thanks, which in almost all instances was appreciated by the helmsman concerned. In general, though, the Americans are much more cheerful and upbeat about this sort of thing and don't get all screwed up about it like us Brits seem to do. It's really not that difficult to be friendly and if you get ignored, well, that's their problem, just move on, life's too short, etc etc.

When we sailed out of West Mersea we generally found people waved, because it's like that on the East Coast. I remember a WMYC cruise up to Rowhedge, when we left the pub some of our saily-boats were rafted inside 3 immense powerboats. Without fuss the power boat owners jumped aboard, slackened lines and jogged sideways to let our raggies out and then shuffled back in again. It was an impressive display of boatmanship, a joy to watch in fact as there was cross wind, tide and current to deal with, and earned cheers and clapping from all of us raggies watching. See? We can appreciate power boats, especially when they're being handled well and with due consideration for others /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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I mention it as it might be a starting point of dialogue for a better understanding between the two sports /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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How sad. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
When me and my mate used to walk home from school we used to make a point of waving at any big Jaguars and or Rolls Royces and shouting out "Hello Daddy" in a posh voice /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

When I go back to the Dales I can't get up the high street without being accosted by people who havn't seen me for ages. It can take an hour to walk 400 yards and buy a pint of milk, a pork pie and a paper. What puzzles me a bit is that some of these people who greet me like a lost friend never spoke to me at all when I lived there full time. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

At sea or anywhere water bound, we try and give a wave and say "lovely weather" to just about anyone no matter what the weather. In fact, sailing round and round Rutland water all last saturday night we said "Hello" to the same boats about six times. Now that was a bit pointless I grant you. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tim
 
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I know that you've denied my accusation of trollism in the past , /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif, but that really takes the biscuit. I don't believe it was possible for you to be in "eye contact". In fact I'm now seriously doubting you have a boat at all.

Eye contact, indeed. Piffle.

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I was just fishing , my dad joins us on the boat each fathers day and he likes fishing, just drifting without power.
We either drifted into a natural track or 20 sailing boats (no mobos) diverted within a few yards to check we were alright /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Thanks guys /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

It was for this reason I interrupted my fishing and made the journey upstairs to wave and thank each one of them /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I was sporting the forum flag but no one recognised it.

I used to fly the RYA burgee and I think I got more waves then but we used to spend more time on the east coast .

Pleased to read from most replies that waving is preferred even if not always practised. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Crusty,

You have something to say about everything, you can not convince me that you can pass someone without acknowledging them !

cheers
Pete
 
"Crusty,

You have something to say about everything, you can not convince me that you can pass someone without acknowledging them !

cheers
Pete "

I know..I am just an old windbag with not much else to do at the moment..........And I can you know, comes from many years of being an anti social old git!.......I'm comfortable in my skin though!

If I should ever see you, I promise I will ignore you, despite your best efforts at waving your pinkies about! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

To everyone else I hereby humbly apologise for having too much to say................





But at least I don't wave at you! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Problem is that the waving etiquette is much more complex than just mobo-raggie.....

Its important to understand on the waving front that not all raggies are the same.....

So, if you are from the RYS (ie the white flag) you will neither wave to nor acknowledge a wave from from any inferior boat, ie non rys.

Owners of wooden boats will generally wave too and acknowledge waves from other wooden or classic boats, however will probably not acknowledge a wave from a AWB........

Halberg Rassy owners will not acknowledge a wave from a Bavaria owner.....

Bavaria Owners generally wave too each other, but will often not wave at others for fear of rejection.

It is not the done thing to initiate waves to passenger carrying grockle boats, as it is not in keeping with the whole luxury yacht/G and T thing, however it is perfectly acceptable to acknowledge a wave. (Generally done by raising your glass of champagne..... )

It is important to remember that the lack of waving is often driven by the fear of rejection, so , I have developed a sort of casual, I was just adjusting my hat, type of semi wave in case the individual/boat I am waving too does not return the wave, despite having odviously seen it.

The other problem is, say someone waves too you from the cockpit, then you return the wave, and this is noticed by someone on the foredeck, who was unaware of the initiating wave from his own cockpit, do you then return the second wave? ( leaving the guy in the cockpit perplexed at your random and excessive flapping of hands.)

Waving at the ships from the grey funnel line will often lead to something pointy being pointed at you, so is unadvised. (Thought they often will respond to flag signals... try ID or XP...)

Its a very complex subject, and at the end of the day often best to just not, for fear of a nasty social faux pas....
 
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I mention it as it might be a starting point of dialogue for a better understanding between the two sports /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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How sad. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Now I'm puzzled, what's sad about being friendly - even to Scotsmen? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

"Fear of rejection"??? Are boating people really so insecure? Most that I have met (not all) have an excessive ego rather than a recessive one - as many of the post on here reveal.
 
I wave, but mostly sailing on the Thames mobos always give two waves, usually a polite one first and then one that follows rather violently behind which nullifies the effect of the first.
 
A very simple rule of thumb.

Mobo's which just happen to pass me at a sensible speed, and don't behave like fecking numpties get a nice friendly wave and smile. Those mobos that pass me too close at too higher speed so that i spill tea due to the boat corkscrewing in their wake get scowled or yelled at, depending on the circumstances. As Cleone's a bit unusual, I do get curious visitors which is fine, but I loath them charging directly at me at 20+ knots. Why? I've no idea if they are just coming for a look or if they have set the autopilot and no one human's at the helm.
 
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