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[hlb]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

Wish you lot would keep up, before condeming folks. I've obnly got a conection or the time whilst on the boat.

As I understand it. Arny's got flack.

!/ because he condemed forumites for offering advice, after he asked for it. and

2/ Because he had a go at me, for saying to Anne. You have to go for it when you get the weather window. Arny's trancelation being. Gung ho, go in any weather. No one wants to have a go at Arny, but he keeps treating knowledgable forumites as pricks. It's the trouble with throwing bricks at bears, some of them throw them back.

 

[Tank]

This is like road rage, only on the water, how dare you criticise my driving/boat handling/i am the perfect driver/helmsman, you only have a little tub, i have a big ship, therefore i am more importent then you/ i am better than you.
Maybe Arny did get a little uptight, but i reckon that he does have a little bit on his plate at the moment, he want's to raise as much as poss for the RNLI and he is getting dissed by people who should know better, a few pm's when things are getting a bit hot can usually sort any problems out as soon as they arise.
There are too many ego's on the loose out there,
Arny, you are not always right, neither are the rest of you lot,
bit of give and take, no-one is perfect
Tony

 

[pennycar9]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

Been on the sorce again have we!!!

 

[Observer]

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This is like road rage, only on the water, how dare you criticise my driving/boat handling/i am the perfect driver/helmsman, you only have a little tub, i have a big ship, therefore i am more importent then you/ i am better than you.
Maybe Arny did get a little uptight, but i reckon that he does have a little bit on his plate at the moment, he want's to raise as much as poss for the RNLI and he is getting dissed by people who should know better, a few pm's when things are getting a bit hot can usually sort any problems out as soon as they arise.
There are too many ego's on the loose out there,
Arny, you are not always right, neither are the rest of you lot,
bit of give and take, no-one is perfect
Tony

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That's your take on it.

Mine is that Arny has taken on a big challenge. Round Britain on a 21'er is a big ask. He could do with some humility and readiness to listen to advice from people who have more experience than he has.

There's no sign from what he writes that he's willing to do that - in fact the reverse. He also seems to have a Happy1 like ability to rub people up the wrong way.

I admire him for taking on the challenge and envy his freedom to take it on. I don't admire his apparent inability to contemplate that he may not know it all.

 

[Solitaire]

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hear hear. by the way, will you do the same for me!!!!!!!!!

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Yup! Come down and we'll give you a go. But you'll have to through an on water assement!
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[pennycar9]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

I'm a bear and I'm thowing the brick back!!!

 

[Solitaire]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

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It's the trouble with throwing bricks at bears, some of them throw them back.

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[pennycar9]

you're on but you may have your work cut out allow at least 6 weeks as I'm a thicko. PM sent

 

[JKay]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

Read the original post Hairy Mary /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Cheers Joe

 

[pennycar9]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

Read what.? I may be old, but ,in my opinion not completely daft Mayday /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[JKay]

Re: Ditto Cardiff Bay & Bristol

Hib and Arny "agree" /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

cheers Joe

 

[Renegade_Master]

observe the second post

 

[Observer]

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observe the second post

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I did and I have re-read it. It's a little ungenerous but hardly vitriolic.

 

[holderone]

I'm confused as to why some of these comments are being made, I for one sponsored Arny on one of the legs for no other reason than its for a good cause and something I want to do at some stage in my life if I get the time. I really don't care how he is planning to do this and what his motivations are, I certainly haven't done it for publicity for my company. Boating is often a challenge in itself and going around Britain has got to be something worth celebrating. Go for it Arny and enjoy every minute of the experience!

 

[pau1gray]

SORRY - THIS IS ANNE TYPING BUT SIGNED IN AS PAUL

Sorry Observer - only replying to you as you were last on the list.

Arny, please remember that there are many many people who support what you are doing and who care and know you well enough to understand the true reasoning behind it.

Reading this thread has made be pretty shaky and upset. No other post on this or any other forum has done that to me. Yes Arny may have 'got up the noses of some' but to be honest, on this froum that is pretty easy to do whether or not it was intended. Yes he is forthright in his views and will defend them to the hilt. That is what has got him to the places he has been and the experiences he has done. He is a truly fascinating guy. Every time we talk I learn more about him. Arny knows that we occasionally spark of each other in a minor way and that gives me the ability to see things from both sides here. I have and never will right him off for this as I have nothing but respect and awe for him and what he has done and continues to do. He has more get up and go, determination and persistent than anyone I've met. Honestly.

What ever you think of him, he has now set off and is away from people he loves and his support network. Reading this is hardly going to be helpful to him in the circumstances - infact could be entirely the opposite and that isn't fair in my view. You all have the right to your own views and you can only comment on what you know and see here I guess but is that enough proof to treat him the way some of you have on this thread? I just wish some of you knew Arny the way Paul and I do - that way you would understand where he comes from, what drives him and where his persistence and forthright attitude to life comes from.

Paul and I have been there and helped Arny ever since the day he first had the idea. I have never observed anything in him that leads me to believe this is about his ego and I feel well qualified to be able to say that with confidence. Yes it is a dream. And he has turned that into a way of raising awareness and money for a good cause. I understand that it was the RNLI who came up with the 'best practice' line. Arny never had this as his view before the RNLI came involved so take it up with them if you disagree. Personally, I think the RNLI are well qualified to look at him and the situation and give their opinion. Many of us don't get off our backsides to realise our dreams let alone turn them into good for others. And Arny has done it time and time and time again, it is just that very few of you I guess know that.

Things have been said and misinterepreted on this forum both by Arny and others - very easy to do when things are written in text with no access to intended meaning through facial expression, intonation and body language. Other things have been said on both sides that are off the mark. S**t happens. The thing about adult hood and maturity is that we should be able to take those things in our strides - on both sides.

I hate getting involved in threads like this, but I can see things from both sides as Arny will know. And I can't stand back and read the things on this thread without speaking. Not because he is a friend, but because I think this thread is hurtful and unfairly so.

Whatever Arny has done or not done, whatever his motivations are perceived to be, he doesn't derserve this. Maybe this post will lay me in for flack now too, but I don't deserve that either. Arny, please rise above above this. Paul and I think the world of you for who you are and what you are doing.

Anne

 

[chewi]

well said.
Particularly about intended meaning, choice of words and expressions. It emphasises how poor this medium is in that respect, so we should all give posters the benefit of the doubt if at first they seem disagreeable and not go for the jugular.

Peace to all, I am sure you all mean well.

 

[Whitelighter]

Well said Anne.

Until now I have kept my nose out of this because I know all to well how easy it is to rub people the wrong way on here, but I really think Arny is getting a hard time for no good reason.

I have been very impressed with the way he has set about this trip, and I know he will raise a considerable amount of money for a very very good cause. Sure, he has plugged a few of the sponsors but frankly that is the way it works - thats why commercial concerns give up valuable time and products for charitable causes and for what its worth I dont think Arny has been blatant about any of it.

As for the fact he is fulfilling an ambition to circumnavigate the country so what? I think it is great that he has channeled his efforts into raising money for a charity that could end up helping any one of us - if not saving our lives and hose of our loved ones.

Ignor the detractors Arny. Regardless of how you get on with people personally, I am amazed that those who dont agree with you cant see the good you are trying to do.

No one is perfect, and I am sure you have and will make mistakes, but if effort and comitment counts for anything you have already done a bloody good job.

 

[BOATKID]

As the original poster can I point out my criticism was to do with the fact that he was not coming to my area, there was nothing personal meant

 

[breezer5012]

I know that and read it that way.

 

[chewi]

likewise