Why are motorboaters generally nicer than people who sail?

[SpottyDog5]

Some say chalk and cheese are different.. how wrong could they be? the king of cheese (humour) HenryF enjoying the credibility of being seen on Col's boat.. chalk one up for Col for allowing him on board

Terry was in there too, it was messy.

 

[oGaryo]

Terry was in there too, it was messy.

decided not to post the photo of Terry as it's before the watershed

 

[rustybarge]

I read "don't belong" as "aren't members". How many sailing clubs have you been into and which clubs were these people who gave you the impression that you didn't belong in their exalted presence members of? I have been in numerous and mostly the people there haven't had a clue what sort of boat I have - in fact some I've been in people are even surprised when someone actually has a boat.

The only thing that I have ever seen of p is a bit of smirking when a group of people arrive all wearing the matching Quba sail cloth jackets as they invariably are motorboaters trying too hard to blend in...

I rest my case, My Noble Lords.

 

[Greenheart]

I rest my case, My Noble Lords.

Ah, but it was their pretence that caused amusement. If they hadn't tried too hard, they wouldn't have been noticed. And why would a person entering a sailing club, try so hard?

Aristocratic types doing dirty jobs like farming or yacht-maintenance, are famous for wearing ancient apparel. Anyone appearing in brand-new stuff, with labels, is asking for a smirk.

 

[l'escargot]

Best use of sails going. imho

You've got one then Roy?

 

[l'escargot]

I rest my case, My Noble Lords.

You've got one as well then?

 

[rustybarge]

Quote Originally Posted by rustybarge View Post
I rest my case, My Noble Lords.

You've got one as well then?

...unfortunately my title got rescinded when I got drunk at a Buck house tea party.

 

[chaldon3]

i was out trawling for brown shrimp once and my engine stopped. we flagged a very large yacht down for assistance the guy was with out doubt upper class, he was horrified
that we had no anchor no flares or a vhf radio, but gladly loaned us the tools to remove the fuel filter, to get us on our way. you can not judge people by what the sail or how they talk. yes i know what fool goes to water with out being fully equipped and your right, but my family have been fishing for more than a hundred years when they just had sails.just the way i have been brought up.

 

[Searush]

How many thousands of sailing clubs are there in the UK, the vast majority of which exist for their sailing members rather than their mobo members, that is if they're allowed in? How many motorboating clubs are there? Very very few in comparison. Maybe rustybarge has a point in that raggies like the hierarchical discipline of being members of a club and all the committees, peaked caps and blazers that go with that whereas moboers tend to be more relaxed and less uptight about their pastime

That's exactly the impression that yotties give to mobo's: that they don't belong in their exalted presence!

Nope I once tried to get into the Royal Southampton but they didn't let me in on account of the fact I wasn't wearing a tie and a yottie friend once took me into the Royal Lymington bar on condition that I didn't mention what kind of boat I had so no you're right, I haven't been in many yacht clubs but since when did a total lack of knowledge about a subject stop anyone from giving an opinion on this forum? I went to a private school too but obviously the wrong one

You're obviously dealing with the wrong clubs. The Royal Welsh has a number of MoBo members & plenty of MAB's too. You'd be welcome on a Jetski too if you obey the speed limits in the harbour. We even have a team of Celtic Gig sea-going rowboats that race across the Irish Sea. No ties required, or blazers or even a shirt, but we like at least a t-shirt & shorts with crocs.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

You're obviously dealing with the wrong clubs. The Royal Welsh has a number of MoBo members & plenty of MAB's too. You'd be welcome on a Jetski too if you obey the speed limits in the harbour. We even have a team of Celtic Gig sea-going rowboats that race across the Irish Sea. No ties required, or blazers or even a shirt, but we like at least a t-shirt & shorts with crocs.

Thanks Searush

 

[l'escargot]

...unfortunately my title got rescinded when I got drunk at a Buck house tea party.

So you would admit to being ex nobility with a drink problem before admitting to owning a Quba jacket - that's telling...

 

[rustybarge]

So you would admit to being ex nobility with a drink problem before admitting to owning a Quba jacket - that's telling...

This thread is starting to get very interesting.There has been a social revolution not in the the '60's and '70's when i was growing up, but in noughties. Look at the demography of London, there are more foreign born residents than British born living in the capital. The world has changed, been turned upside down, meritocratised...except for yacht clubs of course; they're still stuck back in the interwar period.

Where millions of people are celebrating the diversity of multiculturism, the Yotties are worrying about which is the correct way to pass the port, and if they are wearing the correct old boys tie.

Embrace change, get with it, get an engine.

 

[Greenheart]

Where millions are celebrating multiculturism, Yotties are worrying about the correct way to pass the port, and wearing the correct old boys tie. Embrace change, get with it, get an engine.

Rusty...I think you just want to believe your nonsense! School ties and port-passing...a bizarre accrual of class-distinction clichés seems to infest your ideas about sailing clubs!

And...get an ENGINE? No offence to the assembled, but the only time I want to hear a boat's engine is when I've paid for a journey on it...and if I use a boat as transport, I wouldn't want to own it, any more than I want to own a London bus. Sailing fun is something no engine can ever deliver...

...and maybe no motor-boater can understand? No hard feelings, each to their own. G'night. :moon:

 

[Greg2]

An interesting thread!

Being involved in both sailing and mobo cruising I have never really understood the mentality that leads to people making judgements about each other based upon the type of boat they own but some undoubtedly do. And it is not just about mobs and raggies….just look at the issues between mobos and narrow boats on the Thames. As I described in my recent cruise report there are some real similarities with generalised judgements being made on both sides.

As a mobo member of a royal yacht club I have experienced the air of superiority and sometimes downright rudeness from some raggies (usually racing types) described in some posts but I have also experienced the sense of togetherness, sociability and shared enjoyment that being a member of a club can bring. As I got involved in committees and became a flag officer I appreciated more why some (often older) members preferred the traditions of the club as a yacht racing club and found difficulty with the transition to a more open and inclusive environment where all forms of water based activity are welcomed.

This is no different to any other change that affects people and it is probably worth saying that it isn't all linked to boat snobbery but also reflects the general change in standards of society from a smarter (blazer clad? ) more formal approach to a predominantly casual way of life. The thing is who is to say what is right or wrong in this regard? Sure, many (myself included) will prefer a more casual approach but that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with formality and what some would describe as maintaining standards.

It is easy to criticise and there can be an element of inverted snobbery from some who make comments based upon perception as opposed to real knowledge.

 

[caiman]

If you think you guys have got a problem,try sailing a Multihull-despised by raggies in monomarans,and by stinkies
My yotty-Merioneth Yacht Club welcomes everyone,multi's,monos,jet skis,rowers,power boats and any others that use the water responsably.If anyone tries to be snotty,they don't last.Especially on a Sunday afternoon.People there get taken for who they are,not what boat they use/bling they wear.
Family membership £99.Harbour dues/mooring fees approx £300/annum for an 8m boat.PM me if anyone wants details.
Worst yacht club I've been in was SCYC.Moveing up from a GP 14 I went there as a youth to ask to put up a poster to try and gain crewing experiance.I left the place in tears after being belittled by some old twot in red trousers.I vowed never to enter the place again,and never have.I took great pleasure in pi55ing on their wall years later attending the very first Wakestock.
See signature below.:encouragement:
Cheers

 

[rustybarge]

but that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with formality and what some would describe as maintaining standards.

Like I was saying, stuck in the interwar period, reliving Dad's army.

 

[bigwow]

If you think you guys have got a problem,try sailing a Multihull-despised by raggies in monomarans,and by stinkies

+1

 

[rustybarge]

]If you think you guys have got a problem,try sailing a Multihull-despised by raggies in monomarans,and by stinkies[/B]
My yotty-Merioneth Yacht Club welcomes everyone,multi's,monos,jet skis,rowers,power boats and any others that use the water responsably.If anyone tries to be snotty,they don't last.Especially on a Sunday afternoon.People there get taken for who they are,not what boat they use/bling they wear.
Family membership £99.Harbour dues/mooring fees approx £300/annum for an 8m boat.PM me if anyone wants details.
Worst yacht club I've been in was SCYC.Moveing up from a GP 14 I went there as a youth to ask to put up a poster to try and gain crewing experiance.I left the place in tears after being belittled by some old twot in red trousers.I vowed never to enter the place again,and never have.I took great pleasure in pi55ing on their wall years later attending the very first Wakestock.
See signature below.:encouragement:
Cheers

I love Cats, and I've got a little 25' Cheetah powercat. We are really the 'BEM's' of the boating world, but only here in Europe; I am led to believe nearly every other boat in the West Indies is a Cat.

...and we have to pay a 50% surcharge to boot along with all that discrimination.:ambivalence:

But in a strange way we fell vastly superior to the punters who only have one string to their 'bows'.

 

[l'escargot]

...Embrace change, get with it, get an engine.

I've got one - in my sailing boat. Now are you going to get some sails for your motorboat too (and not just fashioned into a jacket either )? :encouragement:

 

[colhel]

Recent posts suggest we mobo/raggies should unite against the common enemy, multi hull owners. Obnoxious moaning gits cruising around in a foot of water then complaining "oh but we have to more". Wan**rs.