Which trailer sailer!

Seajet said:
Except Angus of course, he needs all our prayers and wishes on that thing he's sailing, let's just hope he can make it through to the morning for our brave SAR guys to pick him up from what looks like the balsa flotsam from a schoolboys' project dropped from an aeroplane ! :)
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You're only jealous because my interior doesn't look like it's made of packing cases and been lived in by a tramp. I am of course jealous of your upwind ability in a F11 that you keep reminding us of. Completely out of my envelope, as some drongo once said :)
 
Twister_Ken said:
Is this the Andersen's fornicatorium?

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Ken

Its a bit down market as there is no ceiling mirror!
 
The one trailer-sailer that I don't think has been mentioned in this very long thread is the one that's been playing a starring role on ybw.com courtesy of Dylan Winter's "Keep Turning Left" videos: the Hunter Minstrel. This and the similar Hunter Liberty have centreboards that retract fully into the hull yet don't sem to obstruct the cabin or suffer from jamming by stones and mud, at least I've seen no evidence of this on Dylan's videos and he must of dried out more than most and on a wider variety of seabed types. The flush-bottomed hulls should be easy to launch and recover. http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/?s=minstre

A modified Liberty has crossed the Atlantic I believe so seaworthiness shouldn't be an issue.
 
Yes Dylan couldn't have done better than the Minstrel if he'd comissioned a one-off design !

Maybe not the sort of performance to keep a weekend sailor satisfied and I'm not too sure about the ballast placement / ratio but certainly a good boat.

Another good lift keeler if on a budget and staying inshore / coastal is the Manta 19, a very enjoyable boat to sail.

On a larger scale the Anderson 26 is a lot of boat and a wolf in sheeps' clothing, goes like a rocket; it was designed with the input of existing A22 owners via a questionnaire and the conclusions from the 1979 Fastnet Disaster report, so has bulwarks for toerails etc, I've sailed a few and they feel much bigger than 26', in the nicest way.
 
Does the a26 share the same stumpy mast design as the a22? Isn't it a bit sluggish?

Seajet said:
Yes Dylan couldn't have done better than the Minstrel if he'd comissioned a one-off design !

Maybe not the sort of performance to keep a weekend sailor satisfied and I'm not too sure about the ballast placement / ratio but certainly a good boat.

Another good lift keeler if on a budget and staying inshore / coastal is the Manta 19, a very enjoyable boat to sail.

On a larger scale the Anderson 26 is a lot of boat and a wolf in sheeps' clothing, goes like a rocket; it was designed with the input of existing A22 owners via a questionnaire and the conclusions from the 1979 Fastnet Disaster report, so has bulwarks for toerails etc, I've sailed a few and they feel much bigger than 26', in the nicest way.
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Oh dear here we go...

I don't see how a 26' mast deck stepped on a 22' boat with a 22' boat can ever be called stumpy, never heard of that one.

It's a very efficient 7/8ths rig and will probably sail around your boat in a F6, but is admittedly undercavassed in light airs; you can't have everything, and I'm happier knowing I can deal with gales as opposed to calms !

There's a site on these forums ( not set up by me ) dedicated to the designer, ' The Genius Of Oliver Lee ' ; is there such a thing for your boats' designer ?
 
This kind of stuff must be terribly off-putting to someone who comes new to the forum just wanting to "Share practical, hands-on information" and maybe hoping to learn something useful.
 
There is a webpage but Ian Anderson must have been gutted he didn't design the Anderson22.

Seajet said:
Oh dear here we go...

I don't see how a 26' mast deck stepped on a 22' boat with a 22' boat can ever be called stumpy, never heard of that one.

It's a very efficient 7/8ths rig and will probably sail around your boat in a F6, but is admittedly undercavassed in light airs; you can't have everything, and I'm happier knowing I can deal with gales as opposed to calms !

There's a site on these forums ( not set up by me ) dedicated to the designer, ' The Genius Of Oliver Lee ' ; is there such a thing for your boats' designer ?
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Seajet said:
' Is there a link please ? ' would have been a more pleasant request !

Go to the dark blue band above the ' forum ' selection.

Click on ' Community '.

Scroll 1or 2 down and hey presto.
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Well one lives and learns - never knew that part of the site existed!! Will have to browse there again.

As a Squib sailer I'm also impressed by his design abilities. Last evening in our Wednesday Cruiser series my Squib beat several larger boats through the water; just missed out on getting the fastest Oyster 26 by 15 seconds - but got all of the others!! Won on handicap though!!

Thank you Seajet for pointing making me aware of this section of the site!
 
Seajet said:
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Go to the dark blue band above the ' forum ' selection.
Click on ' Community '.
Scroll 1or 2 down and hey presto.
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Seajet, could I ask you to check this? I think I've done as instructed but I can't seem to find the reference. I've Googled "The Genius of Oliver Lee" with no relevant results and Googling "Oliver Lee yacht" brings up references to the Squib and the early British Hunters.
 
For what it's worth I have the Bendytoy 235 mentioned earlier.

Pros:

Very fast. 20' 6" waterline, relatively light, big sail area.
Nice interior with an enclosed sea toilet that also rather bizarrely but very usefully converts to a nav station. Double berth aft, good galley etc.
Easy to tow but you wouldn't want to be launching / recovering in a weekend. More of a trailable yacht.
Not as tender as you might think - good up to 25 knots with the full main if you keep a steady hand on the main sheet. Reef for comfort sailing or when the wind gets any higher.
Very fast in light weather.
Great standard of hardware with all the same toe rail / cleats / bow roller etc from the big Firsts of it's time. A real mini-yacht.

Cons:

Won't sit on the swing keel except in soft mud.
Rudder isn't really designed for frequent raising - you wouldn't want to be trying to do it under way.
Pain in the a** to anti foul.
In really heavy winds upwind you need to reef right down.

It definitely fits the bill for me as a small, east coast cruiser-racer than can be raced competitively with 3 or 4 crew but is still a nice place to spend a weekend.

If I was going a bit larger I would definitely be tempted by the Super Seal 26 (and it's later Parker variants), the Evolutions (25&26) and the Hunter Delta 25.
 
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