Which for the ocean

I have had six Kingfishers and sailed on a coromandel so my advice will be a little biassed. - A Kingfisher every time -
more space,
wonderful outboard arrangement - on a swinging bracket with a sliding door to shut off the hole
deep sheltered cockpit
incredible build quality - solid cast iron keels with flanges so loads of stainless bolts holdong them on. I have my doubts about Newbridge based on sailing their navigators,etc
A person called Wallace sailed one around the world. They have crossed the Alantic many times. Even though the Corribee has done long voyages the Kingfishers pedigree is better.

I love the things - no doubt my retirement boat will be one.
 
I bought one of Chris's ex Kingfishers - 'Mandolin' the 20+JR version and can vouch for the build quality and seaworthyness. She is entered for the 2012 Jester (some uncompleted business after 2008 in 'Tahiti Belle'). Recently came back to Newhaven from La Havre 70M in F7 - no problems, but make sure the battens are tied in using 'surgeons knots' at each point and not laced with a single line. If you do go the kingfisher route helixkimara please get in touch so we can swop ideas.
 
Tahitibelle said:
I bought one of Chris's ex Kingfishers - 'Mandolin' the 20+JR version and can vouch for the build quality and seaworthyness. She is entered for the 2012 Jester (some uncompleted business after 2008 in 'Tahiti Belle'). Recently came back to Newhaven from La Havre 70M in F7 - no problems, but make sure the battens are tied in using 'surgeons knots' at each point and not laced with a single line. If you do go the kingfisher route helixkimara please get in touch so we can swop ideas.
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Hello Tahitibelle - good to hear mandolin is still working.

yes - bring the line back through and the sail and tie another surgeon knot and then half hitches in the ends of the line so the knot may come loose but never undone.
 
Well

Thanks for the input. Very positive on the Kingfisher Chris. Difficult now as I know the Corribee is also very good. I think it could also be down to the particular Skipper. In my opinion the Corribee is a "prettier" yacht BUT who cares about that in an Atlantic blow. Kingfisher larger inside etc, etc. I have a Junk rig Corribee but no mast and rig "yet". I have the chance of a Kingfisher 20+ but not a Junk (lug rig) so would have to ensure I could effectively reef from the cockpit. I've got to get into gear as intend to do the JAC12. I'll get in touch with you Nich when I decide as I would need to modify either. I have a Windpilot pacific already, would want to make the yacht unsinkable and watertight (Roger Taylor style).
Thanks for your replies
Malcome
(Ex Helix)
 
Colonel 'Blondie' Hasler and his involvement with Kingfishers

Colonel ‘Blondie’ Hasler was best known for two projects, the Hasler/Gibb vane steering gear and the Chinese rig which he first used on Jester, a boat which since 1960 had made numerous transatlantic crossings without mishap.

Hasler did not invent the Chinese rig but what he had done was to investigate and experiment with ways of applying the basic idea to boats of European design. Technically this type of craft is known as a Lorcha. Hasler has applied his accumulated knowledge to a production boat so that his research dating back to the early 60’s is available to us. He has taken the standard Kingfisher 20 Plus, twin keeled cruiser and fitted her with the Chinese lugsail. The boat was sold under the name of the Hasler/Kingfisher 20 Plus; an earlier title of Minion having been discarded.

All the best Malcome!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...a=X&ei=vyCATvn9IqjB0QXDrIjDCQ&ved=0CBgQ9QEwAw
 
change tack

well, after all my babbling about "junk rig Corribee and Kingfisher 20+" I've now got a Hurley 22 long keel 1983. I LIKE IT ALLOT ! Will I have time to prep her for the ocean next year.?? Sloop masthead rig so have to design a good system to reef from the cockpit (or better still from the hatch). Roller reefing foresail with hank ons if I want.
 
The muck soon washes off!

Anything major to do? or is it too early to tell?

Similar lines to the Contessa 26, I'm sure she'll look after you.

What happened to the corribee you were refitting? or did I get that wrong?!

Guy.
 
Change tack

Hi Guy, Nothing major, just strengthening, She is 2 T but am still looking into making her unsinkable, loads of space for foam slabs/bulk heads. New hatch, standing/running rigging. I've got the wind vane(windpilot pacific).

I've still got the Junk rig Corribee and she is stripped out ready to be "Rogered" (as in Roger Tayler)
BUT, I'm having dificulty getting the mast and sails from the "previous, previous" owner as she lives in Austria (Long story but we keep missing each other). A minor point that I kept asking myself "Is it big enough for me" I'm 6ft. 2" and not slightly built. The reason I got the Corribee was that the previous owner "was having difficulty getting the mast and sails"
Malcome
 
helixkimara said:
A minor point that I kept asking myself "Is it big enough for me" I'm 6ft. 2" and not slightly built.
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Ask Tom Mcnally!

I do find it very comforting to see you 'downsizing' from a 28 for this trip. Keep up the posts on developments - it makes me feel more confident! Just make sure you are there, whichever you end up sailing.
 
Ha, I'm 6ft 2 also but fairly lean, yoga every morning helps.

I spent most of my time in the cabin either lying down or on my knees and hence... sore knees!

I'd be tempted to make a seat that fitted the companionway step so I could sit comfortably and watch the world go by, especially if I had a cuddy of some sort, rigid or otherwise.

I guess with two boats on the go you've got plenty on your hands, good luck Malcome.

Guy.
 
Surgeon's Knots

Was only ever a first aider !!

Could somebody please tell me how to make a 'Surgeon's Knots'

Many thanks


David


Tahitibelle said:
I bought one of Chris's ex Kingfishers - 'Mandolin' the 20+JR version and can vouch for the build quality and seaworthyness. She is entered for the 2012 Jester (some uncompleted business after 2008 in 'Tahiti Belle'). Recently came back to Newhaven from La Havre 70M in F7 - no problems, but make sure the battens are tied in using 'surgeons knots' at each point and not laced with a single line. If you do go the kingfisher route helixkimara please get in touch so we can swop ideas.
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co256 said:
Ha, I'm 6ft 2 also but fairly lean, yoga every morning helps.

I spent most of my time in the cabin either lying down or on my knees and hence... sore knees!

I'd be tempted to make a seat that fitted the companionway step so I could sit comfortably and watch the world go by, especially if I had a cuddy of some sort, rigid or otherwise.

I guess with two boats on the go you've got plenty on your hands, good luck Malcome.

Guy.
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Yes I've tried that Guy, LOADS of "Yoga" on my cornflakes with a jar of honey (after my Bacon and eggs).
 
helixkimara said:
Hi Guy, Nothing major, just strengthening, She is 2 T but am still looking into making her unsinkable, loads of space for foam slabs/bulk heads. New hatch, standing/running rigging. I've got the wind vane(windpilot pacific).

I've still got the Junk rig Corribee and she is stripped out ready to be "Rogered" (as in Roger Tayler)
BUT, I'm having dificulty getting the mast and sails from the "previous, previous" owner as she lives in Austria (Long story but we keep missing each other). A minor point that I kept asking myself "Is it big enough for me" I'm 6ft. 2" and not slightly built. The reason I got the Corribee was that the previous owner "was having difficulty getting the mast and sails"
Malcome
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I've now got the mast and junk rig for my Corribee, !!! ? ? It would be easier to prep the Corribee. But the Hurley 22 is bigger. How can I decide ? ? ? " FIIIIIGHT"
 
Hi there, this is interesting to follow and wonder (hope) if you will be posting some pics or a weblog of the process á la Guy's, whichever one you choose to prep. Or both of course!

As for the choice, I think the H22 may get my vote- a few Cors out there already done like this...

Whatever you do I'll follow the process keenly as I should be getting stuck into my own very soon. All the best, Jem.
 
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