What MoBo for single handers?

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I've been playing with the idea of buying another boat for over a year now, and I'm sure I will one day soon, but time still presses so I'm not in any rush, still it's fun to consider the prospects, and my budget would be about £80k max.

My boat must have:
2 diesel engines, (I'm no engineer so it gives me comfort).
8 knots cruising speed, more OK but not an issue
1 spare cabin for guests

A decent range and enough tankage not to keep filling up at euro prices. Now because I wish to use the boat single handed my original idea was an old lifeboat, difficult close handling can be solved with a bow thruster. The main advantages that drew me to these were:
1. Easy access to decks port and starboard
2. Low freeboard for easy embarkation and disembarkation
3. Walk round decks with good high stanchions and rail
4. Will sit more or less upright in tidal anchorages

The downside seems to be that they're not very well set up for spending long period aboard, in Watsons you cannot get to the forward cabin without going on deck which is a security issue, and the accomodation is small. Also running costs are quite high with heavy duty everything and an elderley double diagonal wood construction.

With the strong pound dollar situation I was fantasising about buying in the US and cruising there for a while, and that got me thinking about what my alternatives might be, given that ex. RNLI boats are not exactly plentiful there. The Grand Banks seems to be the only option I can come up with, but I've owned one before and it is a bit like living in a goldfish bowl, and despite protestations to the contrary I think they can feel distinctly dangerous in a beam sea, but I don't say they are, just that they roll so, and with a semi displacement hull form, well it had me worried anyway on the one occasion I was subjected to it.

I wouldn't exclude a GRand Banks but does anyone have any other ideas that might fill the criteria?

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What about C'KIP Trawler Yachts in Scotland?

44' 3 cabins, 34' 2 cabins, twin engines, side access to decks.

1980 models from around £60,000 to £80,000.

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Have you considered the Aqua-Star 33. Comes aft cockpit or aft cabin. Is a good semi-displacement hull. Can be handled by one person. £80k ought to get you one. Or what about a small Nelson Languard or similar.

I have had boats with all hulls, including a Trawler Yacht. Have considered the Aqua-Star as a good all rounder but as yet not owned one.

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if you are singlehanding, you might also consider a stern thruster and some mechanism to allow both bow and stern to continue thrusting for a minute or so while you secure the stringy bits to the sticky up bits on the jetty/pontoon /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Have to agree with Kevin. I did my Day Skippers on a C-Kip Trawler and it was brlliant despite the images that were conjured up when I recieved my joining instructions. From memory it seemed to fill most of the criteria that you have outlined. I wouldn't have thought twice about taking her out on my own given the chance.


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Having owned a trawler yacht for a number of years they are great boats, lots of room, pretty good sea keeping, very economical on the fuel and very easy to 'park'. However on the down side is if you want them to look nice it is a bit like the Forth Bridge - you are for ever scrapping and varnishing wood. You can use wood oil but all previous traces of varnish has to be removed and the finish will never look as good as half a dozen coats of varnish. A well looked after trawler is a pleasure to see, one that does not have TLC looks a load of cr-p!!

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My last boat was a 50 foot single engine and I held that nicely to the pontoon with a tickover forward and a slight wheel away from the pontoon, exactly determined by wind and tide, getting the spring on first for the engine to work against. The same idea with a smaller boat and a bow thruster would I think do the trick without the "absolute" necessity of getting the spring on first. The question is, are there bow thrusters out there that can be left "on" while you moor, or are they all hold and release?

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Freeboard doesn't look that low to me, and the side decks rather narrow, but I take your advice that Nelson style boats might be worthwhile.

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I have owned a Nelson before, though before I was really single handing much of the time. If you have one of the models open aft, say one of the pretty long cabin 34's, then certainly one can lean over the gunnel to reach for a cleat, but it does mean one must carry the forward line all the way aft outside everything in order to dismount with it in your hand after securing aft. I think they are a real option, a bit narrow on the side and foredeck for anchor handling, and no P&S access, but a real option all the same.

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Well I think "yes" to the older C Kips up to about 1980, before they went to wide aft cabins and motor-cruisery high topside outlines, but really they are out of the same generic pool as the Grand Banks, poor mens Grand Banks if you like. I owned one from a lesser Taiwan brand, she was called Lahaina after the island is Hawaii where the first owner went Whale Watching. She'd do a treat now I think where I wasn't too impressed first time around, but then I was still a flash git and now I'm chasing old age.

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Thanks for all the comments, I think it means that a Grand Banks or similar is the only walk-round-deck option, although smaller aft well deck boats with a fore deck not too high, Nelson, Spearfish, Omega etc., might also do.

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