What is your dream Yacht / Boat?

Well, it stops the sail acting as a sail, but it will still be flogging about which won't do the sail any good and in a strong wind could endanger the yard (not the big heavy steel lowers so much, but definitely a royal or a topgallant). You can sometimes leave a sail hanging in its gear (as that state is called) temporarily if you expect to need it again soon, but it depends on the wind, direction as well as strength. Sometimes it will lie still, sometimes it won't and you need to send two or four guys up to stow it.

I suppose it's a little like dropping a mainsail onto the boom but not putting any sail ties on.

Pete

A good deal more than 2 or 4 guys needed to stow the square sail here:-

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Great footage Mr Chapman, and an interesting coincidence...when I was thinking of my ideal vessel for this thread, the first name that came to mind was the beautiful brigantine Irving Johnson, or her sistership Exy Johnson.

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Fascinating to hear the old guy describing every moment of such a memorable trip...he sounds as if he's recalling the journey from half a century later.

On reflection though, I'm beginning to think fondly of roller-reefing yards. :rolleyes:
 
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A good deal more than 2 or 4 guys needed to stow the square sail here:-

That's interesting. Those yards are wider than Stavros's course yards, but not unrecognisably so. But we only really pack the yard with bodies like that in order to train lots of voyage crew in one go, or (to a lesser extent) to do a neat harbour-stow. If the idea is just to get a sail stowed quickly, especially in breezy weather, we'd do two people per side with more experienced folk (deckhands, watch leaders, or promising voyage crew). You start at the mast and work outward, sea-stowing the sail bit by bit ahead of you so that it's not taking swipes at your legs which might knock you off the footrope (having your feet knocked away doesn't mean instantly falling off as you're also gripping with your stomach over the yard, but it's not much fun!). You get out to the clew and pass the clew-gasket, then come back inboard tightening up the gaskets as you pass them (they will be slack because the sail was still hanging down when they were first done up). I've done this on my own from time to time, but two people is more usual to help with holding the sail while tying the gaskets and sometimes with hauling up the clew gasket which can be quite heavy especially if it's a sail whose sheets are made of chain.

I'm sure the guys rounding the Horn wouldn't all be up there if they didn't need to be, so I wonder what the difference is. Stiffer, heavier natural canvas than our Duradon stuff, perhaps? I suppose a deeper sail (top to bottom) is harder to lift even a short section of - but then again those guys were a lot tougher and stronger than most of us. Perhaps their buntlines didn't lift the sail up so close to the yard?

Pete
 
Dream yacht? .... this is .....

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Why? Because she's mine and she's paid for. No point in having dreams if they don't come true is there?
 
I remember as a boy seeing a Cheoy Lee Offshore 47 and falling in love with it.

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As I've grown older, my fantasy boats have become much more modest. I now realize that 1) I'm much more likely to get into trouble with a big boat in a harbor than I am with a small boat on the ocean, and 2) my wife isn't going to join me except for very short excursions regardless of how nice and comfy the boat is. My current fantasy boats are Vancouver 27s, Allied Seawind 32s, and Contessa 32s.
 
A good deal more than 2 or 4 guys needed to stow the square sail here:-

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The Peking in those days was used for sail training as well as cargo so she had a much larger crew than most other windjammers. It's a case of if you've got the men, use them.

If you've not seen the full video of Irving Johnsons around Cape Horn then I suggest you look it up. Well worth watching.
 
I saw this in Zadar Yesterday, i could not resist and became one of those people who stop and stare.... Actually this is not the case i walked on by, taking in glances at SY ADIX while some of the crew cleaned the hull from the tender and the guests all laughed around a table.
 
I wouldn't want people laughing and enjoying themselves on my boat, most especially not round a table.

I saw this in Zadar Yesterday, i could not resist and became one of those people who stop and stare.... Actually this is not the case i walked on by, taking in glances at SY ADIX while some of the crew cleaned the hull from the tender and the guests all laughed around a table.
 
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