Peppermint
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They'd be quite old now.
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What ever happened to Titty & Rodger?
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jhr
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From the Arthur Ransome website:
"The Swallows were firmly based on the children of the Altounyan family that AR met in the Lake District in 1928. There were 5 Altounyan children: Barbara (whose name was apparently changed to Taqui, early on in her life), Susie, Mavis (everyday-nickname 'Titty'), Roger and Brigit.
Roger Altounyan
In later life Roger was a flying instructor during the Second World War and as Dr Roger Altounyan invented the Spinhaler, used by many asthma sufferers. You can see some movies of Dr Altounyan explaining the invention of the Spinhaler and the isolation of Intal, on the National Library of Medicine web site.
There are suggestions that the Amazons were based on Pauline and Georgie Rawdon Smith.
AR's nephew, Arthur Lupton, suggests that Dick might well be the young AR himself and Dorothea AR's sister Cecily,who was always writing stories".
I seem to recall that, when the "Nancy Blackett" was re-commissioned a few years back, one of the Altounyan sisters came to the re-naming ceremony. Ransome website is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.arthur-ransome.org/ar/>here</A>
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"The Swallows were firmly based on the children of the Altounyan family that AR met in the Lake District in 1928. There were 5 Altounyan children: Barbara (whose name was apparently changed to Taqui, early on in her life), Susie, Mavis (everyday-nickname 'Titty'), Roger and Brigit.
Roger Altounyan
In later life Roger was a flying instructor during the Second World War and as Dr Roger Altounyan invented the Spinhaler, used by many asthma sufferers. You can see some movies of Dr Altounyan explaining the invention of the Spinhaler and the isolation of Intal, on the National Library of Medicine web site.
There are suggestions that the Amazons were based on Pauline and Georgie Rawdon Smith.
AR's nephew, Arthur Lupton, suggests that Dick might well be the young AR himself and Dorothea AR's sister Cecily,who was always writing stories".
I seem to recall that, when the "Nancy Blackett" was re-commissioned a few years back, one of the Altounyan sisters came to the re-naming ceremony. Ransome website is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.arthur-ransome.org/ar/>here</A>
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claymore
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I was always rather fond of Susan - seemed such a sensible girl and caring.
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Peppermint
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Thanks. I was browsing through some of the books over the weekend. Got me thinking.
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Thanks. I was browsing through some of the books over the weekend. Got me thinking.
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brianhumber
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Are you suffering sailing withdrawal?
The best MN response I can offer is to ask did John Roger Susan?
What Dick got up too with Titty, Nancy and Peggy is not printable here.
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The best MN response I can offer is to ask did John Roger Susan?
What Dick got up too with Titty, Nancy and Peggy is not printable here.
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jhr
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Got me thinking as well, so I spoke to a colleague who works for a science journal. Roger Altounyan is apparently a well known name in the field of asthma research and carried out most of his experiments by giving himself asthma attacks (with subsequent damage to his long term health) and then experimenting with various drugs. He died in 1987.
Interesting guy.
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Got me thinking as well, so I spoke to a colleague who works for a science journal. Roger Altounyan is apparently a well known name in the field of asthma research and carried out most of his experiments by giving himself asthma attacks (with subsequent damage to his long term health) and then experimenting with various drugs. He died in 1987.
Interesting guy.
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jhr
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One more go..
... and Titty was an artist who died in 1998. Obituary <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.arthur-ransome.org/ar/literary/mavisgu.htm>here</A>.
Blimey; what a family.............
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... and Titty was an artist who died in 1998. Obituary <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.arthur-ransome.org/ar/literary/mavisgu.htm>here</A>.
Blimey; what a family.............
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Phoenix of Hamble
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Its funny cuz I was wondering about this too.... I've been reading the series of books with my kids.....
Its getting exciting at the moment..... the kids have just got back to the Wild Cat, and alongside is Black Jakes boat, the Viper, but no sign of Peter Duck or Bill.... I just wish I didn't already know how it ends!
And even more, I wish the world was such that my kids could experience such grand adventure.......
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Its getting exciting at the moment..... the kids have just got back to the Wild Cat, and alongside is Black Jakes boat, the Viper, but no sign of Peter Duck or Bill.... I just wish I didn't already know how it ends!
And even more, I wish the world was such that my kids could experience such grand adventure.......
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RichardPerou
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It's all Ransom's fault. I'd be comfortably off now if I hadn't read that book.
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Jean
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Rigger
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Are they worth reading again?
Read them all avidly as a kid (except fo Missee Lee which for some reason I missed out) I tried to interest the kids a few years ago but got knowhere. Just noticed Nauticalia have complete set of hardbacks in the latest catalogue. Just wondering whether its worth putting them on my own Xmas list,as I can't see anyone else wanting them! Has anyone " re-visited" and if so are they as good second time round an 30yrs later??
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Read them all avidly as a kid (except fo Missee Lee which for some reason I missed out) I tried to interest the kids a few years ago but got knowhere. Just noticed Nauticalia have complete set of hardbacks in the latest catalogue. Just wondering whether its worth putting them on my own Xmas list,as I can't see anyone else wanting them! Has anyone " re-visited" and if so are they as good second time round an 30yrs later??
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Phoenix of Hamble
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Re: Are they worth reading again?
Yep,
I'm reading them at the moment, albeit aloud to the kids, and yes, they are just as good 30 yrs later!
I also saw the hardback books in Nauticala's catalogue at £13 per book, but thought they were a bit expensive.... I've been buying them for the kids(honest) one by one, paperback, from Amazon at about £7 or £8 per book.....
I do however, now have a problem. My kids, being currently dinghy sailors, and never having gone to sea, are going to be so stuffed full of olde worlde nautical terminology when we get our boat that it'll be embarrasing.... I can just hear them yelling now.... "belay the warp yer landlubbering yellow belly" or perhaps... "pull on the topsides afore we comes abaft the ketch"... humhhhh
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Yep,
I'm reading them at the moment, albeit aloud to the kids, and yes, they are just as good 30 yrs later!
I also saw the hardback books in Nauticala's catalogue at £13 per book, but thought they were a bit expensive.... I've been buying them for the kids(honest) one by one, paperback, from Amazon at about £7 or £8 per book.....
I do however, now have a problem. My kids, being currently dinghy sailors, and never having gone to sea, are going to be so stuffed full of olde worlde nautical terminology when we get our boat that it'll be embarrasing.... I can just hear them yelling now.... "belay the warp yer landlubbering yellow belly" or perhaps... "pull on the topsides afore we comes abaft the ketch"... humhhhh
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mirabriani
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Re: Are they worth reading again?
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mirabriani
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Re: Are they worth reading again?
Agree with Richard and NAS
Yes the're just as good second time round
And, yes I too, would probably be richer had I not read them
My s/h bookshop is now selling them for £14
Regards Briani
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Agree with Richard and NAS
Yes the're just as good second time round
And, yes I too, would probably be richer had I not read them
My s/h bookshop is now selling them for £14
Regards Briani
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Mirelle
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Thank you.
My son Alex met a member of the Nancy Blackett Trust who was taught to sail by the real Roger (Roger Altounyan) and was even more impressed to learn that the real Roger grew up, flew Spitfires and invented the athsma inhaler.
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My son Alex met a member of the Nancy Blackett Trust who was taught to sail by the real Roger (Roger Altounyan) and was even more impressed to learn that the real Roger grew up, flew Spitfires and invented the athsma inhaler.
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Andrew_Fanner
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Re: Thank you.
My children enjoy the film (and tolerate Daddy's constant "I was at school with her") and are discovering the stories. Yes, they are just as good second (or in my case umpteenth) time around. The oldest asked me if Secret Water was a real place, I gave him a suitable chart and he was fascinated.
I filled in my gaps from boat jumbles at a couple of quid a pop. Only one left is "Coots In The North".
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My children enjoy the film (and tolerate Daddy's constant "I was at school with her") and are discovering the stories. Yes, they are just as good second (or in my case umpteenth) time around. The oldest asked me if Secret Water was a real place, I gave him a suitable chart and he was fascinated.
I filled in my gaps from boat jumbles at a couple of quid a pop. Only one left is "Coots In The North".
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Mirelle
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Secret Water
This summer a friend took Alex round Mastodon Island by dinghy on the top of a spring tide. Speedy was of course not there, but Alex identified the remains of a barge windlass lying on the saltings in the right place as her last remains.
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This summer a friend took Alex round Mastodon Island by dinghy on the top of a spring tide. Speedy was of course not there, but Alex identified the remains of a barge windlass lying on the saltings in the right place as her last remains.
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ditchcrawler
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Re: Are they worth reading again?
They are definitely worth reading again.I did so when laid up after an operation.I got mine second hand from boat jumbles & oxfam shops including Coots in ths North.It was Swalows & Amazons that started me off sailing also.You can still buy the video & Coot Club/Big Six on video.
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They are definitely worth reading again.I did so when laid up after an operation.I got mine second hand from boat jumbles & oxfam shops including Coots in ths North.It was Swalows & Amazons that started me off sailing also.You can still buy the video & Coot Club/Big Six on video.
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celandine
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Duffers
I seem to recall that the children's father gives them permission to go boating on their own with a telegram that reads something like: If not duffers won't drown: if duffers better drowned. Words that the next legislator with a raft of nanny-state H&E legislation would do well to remember.
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I seem to recall that the children's father gives them permission to go boating on their own with a telegram that reads something like: If not duffers won't drown: if duffers better drowned. Words that the next legislator with a raft of nanny-state H&E legislation would do well to remember.
Mick
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jhr
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Re: Duffers
"Better drowned than duffers: if not duffers, won't drown"
My personal mantra, particularly when I fall in the water. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
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"Better drowned than duffers: if not duffers, won't drown"
My personal mantra, particularly when I fall in the water. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
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