What engine have I got

[captaindan]

I have recently bought a canal boat in Kent and need to get a manuel for the engine but no where does the engine have a plate on it to tell me what engine it is. All I can see is it has a bowman heat exchange on the top,
Does anyone recognise the engine from the pictures

 

[Boater Sam]

Landrover?

 

[lusitano]

Could be one of these ?

Used 1978 BMC BMC 2.5 50hp Marine Diesel Engine | Boats and Outboards

 

[Refueler]

Landrover?

Doubt that ... most LR's for diesels used Perkins engines ....

 

[Buck Turgidson]

My google skills think it's Polish!

 

[geem]

Doubt that ... most LR's for diesels used Perkins engines ....

Land rover produced their own diesels. Over a million of the 200&300tdi engines were made. I don't think they ever used Perkins but happy to be proved wrong

 

[vyv_cox]

A few photos of my BMC 2.5 50 HP engine. Hope they help.

 

[CalicoJack]

The oil filler cap looks to be BMC, lots of those on old Austin’s. The gearbox is a TMP box, the same type as mine, but they did fit those to lots of different engines.

 

[lusitano]

Land rover produced their own diesels. Over a million of the 200&300tdi engines were made. I don't think they ever used Perkins but happy to be proved wrong

Preceded by the Italian VM 2.5 Tdi

 

[geem]

Preceded by the Italian VM 2.5 Tdi

Yep, but only in Range Rovers I think

 

[lusitano]

Yep, but only in Range Rovers I think

90,s 110,s and 127,s too

 

[geem]

90,s 110,s and 127,s too

Mr Google and Wikipedia suggest not. RR only

 

[Tranona]

90,s 110,s and 127,s too

Think you will find they are either BMWs or Fords depending on year

 

[Refueler]

Land rover produced their own diesels. Over a million of the 200&300tdi engines were made. I don't think they ever used Perkins but happy to be proved wrong

I'm talking PROPER LR's .... Series 2 .. 2A ... etc ... they had 2.25 Petrol ... the larger diesel was a Perkins and was advised to have 4WD engaged all time to absorb the torque ..

I was a LR owner for years long before getting my Range Rover ...

 

[Refueler]

The BMW / Ford days were way later than the Perkins days ... you have to remember that Perkins were suppliers to many brands and also MOD ... the older LR's were a mainstay of the MOD ...
When the later Series 3 came about LR had already started producing their own based on the BMC / Perkins units .. and they got further developed into the Defenders and of course Discovery's.
Early RR's borrowed from the range and the larger 3.5 Rover .. until the revamp of the second version model ...

My 2012 RR is the JLR version of the BMW 4.4 TDV8 ... and the interior is the Ford based VOGUE SE late face lift L322 ...

 

[lusitano]

Mr Google and Wikipedia suggest not. RR only

Quite right sir, I stand corrected !

 

[geem]

I'm talking PROPER LR's .... Series 2 .. 2A ... etc ... they had 2.25 Petrol ... the larger diesel was a Perkins and was advised to have 4WD engaged all time to absorb the torque ..

I was a LR owner for years long before getting my Range Rover ...

I owned a series 2A as well. We converted it to a 3.5L V8. Fitted power steering and won our class in the AWDC national trial championships.
We also used to trial a series 1 , 2.0L no power steering and not much in the way of brakes. The wire spoked steering wheel used to try and chop your thumb off.
Which model got a Perkins from the factory? Never heard of Perkins as a factory option. Loads of people retro fitted them. They used to blow diffs for fun but never a Land Rover supplied engine as far as I know. What year? What model? What engine?

 

[Refueler]

Geem .... go deeper into rebadging ..... Perkins was supplier of no-label engines to many ... usually in kit-box form .....

Even the humble black cab was supplied rebadged Perkins ... which was basically the 4-99 / 4.107 for ages ...

TBH - doesn't bother me one iota whether you accept my version or not ... grew up with them ... along with many other engines / tractors etc.

 

[RivalRedwing]

Perkins may have been a cheap but agricultural 'replacement' but LR / Rover produced the early engines, see for example Land Rover engines - Wikipedia.
In the article other suppliers of originally fitted engines are given due credit..

 

[KREW2]

looks like a perkins