What boat for £10k

[Chiara’s slave]

Thankfully our little beasts don’t need a team of divers, we can simply pop in to Cowes Corinthians and have a look at her naked bottom on one of their cranes. We have lifting strops that attach to ring nuts on the keel bolts, to save the hassles of slings. It’s quick to crane out an XOD that way, you just take the backstay off the deck fitting, pull on the forward f**er to bring the mast out of the way and up she goes. We have a good scrub on the crane before regattas, and check for underwater damage. We usually hit the bottom several times a season

 

[Wansworth]

Thankfully our little beasts don’t need a team of divers, we can simply pop in to Cowes Corinthians and have a look at her naked bottom on one of their cranes. We have lifting strops that attach to ring nuts on the keel bolts, to save the hassles of slings. It’s quick to crane out an XOD that way, you just take the backstay off the deck fitting, pull on the forward f**er to bring the mast out of the way and up she goes. We have a good scrub on the crane before regattas, and check for underwater damage. We usually hit the bottom several times a season

Is there any cheating with say one owner getting a diver to clean the bottom pre race ?

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Is there any cheating with say one owner getting a diver to clean the bottom pre race ?

Plenty of cheating, but not that. We are not allowed to haul out between races, but are allowed to scrub. Take a look at that boat in Itchenor, particularly the mast, and you may see, or rather not see, something that should be present on every non factory one design racer.

 

[DoubleEnder]

Plenty of cheating, but not that. We are not allowed to haul out between races, but are allowed to scrub. Take a look at that boat in Itchenor, particularly the mast, and you may see, or rather not see, something that should be present on every non factory one design racer.

Mysterious

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Mysterious

Not really. In a class where everything is measured, bands are painted on the mast to mark where the sails are allowed to be set between. As seen here.

 

[Lucky Duck]

Those measurement bands are ubiquitous, presumably because they are used in IRC and the like

 

[potentillaCO32]

Those measurement bands are ubiquitous, presumably because they are used in IRC and the like

Indeed. When my old boat was measured for irc bands were taped onto mast and boom.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Those measurement bands are ubiquitous, presumably because they are used in IRC and the like

Indeed. Even the width is laid down in the rules. Hence not having one visible is kinda begging the question, why not?

 

[Egret]

So to recap - for the 10K, buy the type of boat that you want which is clean, well looked after and in good condition, and with any luck won't need much major work for the next 5-10 years or more

 

[sigma38dave]

So to recap - for the 10K buy the type of boat that you want which is clean, well looked after and in good condition, and with any luck won't need much major work for the next 5-10 years or more

Nope, it’s Centaurs or similar only apparently, I’ve been admonished for suggesting otherwise!

 

[finestgreen]

Maybe a fulmar (with a low offer):

https://hamble.boatshed.com/westerly_fulmar-boat-340130.html

Or a moody 29:

Moody 29 for sale UK, Moody boats for sale, Moody used boat sales, Moody Sailing Yachts For Sale Moody 29 on Hayling Island - Apollo Duck

 

[dunedin]

Maybe a fulmar (with a low offer):

https://hamble.boatshed.com/westerly_fulmar-boat-340130.html

Or a moody 29:

Moody 29 for sale UK, Moody boats for sale, Moody used boat sales, Moody Sailing Yachts For Sale Moody 29 on Hayling Island - Apollo Duck

The Fulmar as a type is a brilliant boat for family sailing. Sails well but very seaworthy and feels stable and reassuring (I took my mother sailing on ours, and she had never been on a sailing boat before). Also excellent spacious and practical interior. Ideal size for a first boat, if can find a decent one in budget.
Be prepared to glue up headlinings. Top improvement on ours was fitting a small hatch into the quarterberth to improve light and ventilation.

 

[14K478]

Maybe a fulmar (with a low offer):

https://hamble.boatshed.com/westerly_fulmar-boat-340130.html

Or a moody 29:

Moody 29 for sale UK, Moody boats for sale, Moody used boat sales, Moody Sailing Yachts For Sale Moody 29 on Hayling Island - Apollo Duck

I crewed on a delivery of a Fulmar from Hamble to Suffolk Yacht Harbour in interesting weather, years ago, and she struck me as a really nice boat with good manners and quite quick.

So I’d urge you to take a look

 

[Chiara’s slave]

The Fulmar as a type is a brilliant boat for family sailing. Sails well but very seaworthy and feels stable and reassuring (I took my mother sailing on ours, and she had never been on a sailing boat before). Also excellent spacious and practical interior. Ideal size for a first boat, if can find a decent one in budget.
Be prepared to glue up headlinings. Top improvement on ours was fitting a small hatch into the quarterberth to improve light and ventilation.

No spirit of adventure We took my mum sailing on our Hurricane 5.9 for her first trip.

 

[mrming]

Maybe a fulmar (with a low offer):

https://hamble.boatshed.com/westerly_fulmar-boat-340130.html

Or a moody 29:

Moody 29 for sale UK, Moody boats for sale, Moody used boat sales, Moody Sailing Yachts For Sale Moody 29 on Hayling Island - Apollo Duck

That Fulmar is the yard number after mine, meaning it may also have been a Westerly Sea School boat. Mine was £13.5k in a hotter market (2020), better equipped, a lot nicer inside, and with a much more recent Beta engine. I’ve still spent the same again on it as I mentioned up thread. Bolt on upgrades like new electronics are relatively easy to do yourself, but bringing that interior woodwork back to life would be a major job. The age of the standing rigging isn’t mentioned, and the mainsail looks rough from what little we can see. A minor point is I can’t see any self tailing winches - and those are very expensive to buy. If you want a floating project you can sail, this could be good, but in the current market I would be viewing boats that are in much better basic condition inside.

 

[dunedin]

No spirit of adventure We took my mum sailing on our Hurricane 5.9 for her first trip.

Sadly she had refused to set foot on any of my father’s smaller boats. And even nervous on a cross channel ferry. So was amazed when she volunteered to come out on the Fulmar, and even more that she enjoyed it. We quietly slotted in reef 1 and out again four or so times without mentioning. But so much more stable stepping aboard than smaller boats.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Sadly she had refused to set foot on any of my father’s smaller boats. And even nervous on a cross channel ferry. So was amazed when she volunteered to come out on the Fulmar, and even more that she enjoyed it. We quietly slotted in reef 1 and out again four or so times without mentioning. But so much more stable stepping aboard than smaller boats.

Absolutely, great boats in many ways. Ours remained mostly flat for the trip, and we distracted her with a heron in the reeds whilst a hull popped out. She did have a brief sail, and a cup of tea on one of our bigger multis, but she wasn’t really a sailing creature.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Maybe a fulmar (with a low offer):

https://hamble.boatshed.com/westerly_fulmar-boat-340130.html

Or a moody 29:

Moody 29 for sale UK, Moody boats for sale, Moody used boat sales, Moody Sailing Yachts For Sale Moody 29 on Hayling Island - Apollo Duck

The Fulmar will be about a million times better than a Centaur.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

The Fulmar will be about a million times better than a Centaur.

Only a million? I’d take a 10k Fulmar over a 100k C32, let alone a Centaur

 

[Wansworth]

If my memory is correct I looked at a Centaur an A or B layout but it suffered from that awful idea that the crew sat squeezed up round a table looking at the bloody kitchen and for that reason I rejected it and bought an Albin Vega .A friend bought a Fulmar and there is no comparison to a Centaur which pretends to emulate a caravan meanwhile the Albin Vega offers the proper acomodación of a seagoing smal yacht