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mikewilkes

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Re: Too many links

Please dont delete the photo jobbie Jules. I have printed it of but may loose it on the way home next week. Well I do have a lot of time in KLM's lounge before I get on my flight!!!!!
 

hlb

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Re: Too many links

Yes but at great trouble Tony made us our own photo web site years ago. Instructions on how to use it and everything. So all our pics were in the same place and every one could look at them. Now I know you mean well and I dont want to cause offence but Tonys site is very easy, it does all the resizing ect for you. It's here... web page

Dont think your three links are an issue though.
 

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Re: Ang On A Bit More

Hmm, Solitaire seems to have said everything I was about to say /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think there is definately a clique on this forum but then I've been part of online forums since before the web came along and they're always a little like that! That said, it's particularly noticable on this forum.

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I find this forum very informative, funny, sometimes irritating and occasionally the debate gets a bit heated. If you don't like the people on here or the way it works don't log on.

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Certainly not picking on you but this line is interesting and not uncommon... Not so long back someone asked why the forum seemed to be getting quieter - in fact, some were startled that maybe scuttlebutt would overtake in terms of number of posts! The idea that people shouldn't log on if they don't like it will only accelerate the forum's demise - I've seen it happen before several times. In fact one of my favourite forums had a terrible cliquey attitude and went from being busier than this to no posts for days in 12 months. People just got sick of it and now it's died.

The noticable thing about this forum is the number of threads that are meaningless or plain boring to all readers other than a few core members. Whilst it could be argued that this is an unavoidable (and enjoyable) part of being a forum community, the community must recognise that like society, it has a duty to add new members (though unlike society, not through the liberal use of sex!). If most threads are in-jokes or essentially personal conversations, such potential members will just find somewhere else to loiter.

Often when people do summon the courage to post a question they are asked to perform a search - the implication being that the forum cannot be bothered to answer the same question again. Repeatedly answering the same questions is a good way of helping attract new members - it is a necessary evil of internet forum life /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

It was still a bizarre response to hlb's post however. And EyeNo didn't say anything offensive either, tbh...

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Re: Goodbye

Thanks for the support

The truth is the`re so busy complaining about the noise from the smoke detector they can`t see the house is on fire.

For me I`m out of here, my ego is far to big to take anymore of this crap.

Before I go, could someone please explain the windup to Blackfeather I don’t want him to think to bad of me. Sorry mate but I couldn’t resist it.

All the best to everyone have a good season.

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ClassicPlastic

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Re: Goodbye

Well, I suppose I'm glad to have been thanked...

But, I spent a fair bit of time looking at weather windows etc to bring his Bayliner round from the Humber to Ipswich. As the boat hadn't been to sea in years and it was to be the first trip at sea for him and his lady, I was keen to make it comfy and successful. I was slightly put off by the lack of spares (two spare fuel filters for a first sea trip with eleven year old fuel tanks...)

So, today I got a text saying 'Hope you don't mind but I've found a skipper who'll do it in rough seas'. Perhaps our discussions weren't clear enough... I'd have taken a shot at moving your boat today, with the right kit and spares, but without inexperienced hands on board, and for (in the words of Dire Straits) the usual fees, plus expenses. I offered to help out of kindness, and you chose to go with another skipper who doesn't mind putting to sea in an unproven boat in rough weather.

Well, I hope that the weather WAS better than forecast, and that the Bayliner stood up to it, and that you and your lady have not been put off boating at sea for ever. (I silently wished you luck this morning, in the sound knowledge that you needed it).

With the benefit of some experience, may I suggest that boating in the North Sea requires either a flexible diary or a Nelson (or similar)?

From a plaque above my desk here...

'The least experienced go on passage, whilst the more experienced go out and turn back, to sit with the most experienced, who never left'...

or...

'It's better to be two weeks late in this world than two decades early in the next'

and

'It's better to be in here wishing you were out there than out there wishing you were in here'...

Having recently written up the defects on a one-year-old £1M mobo, comprehensively trashed by a delivery skipper, who had driven it through some horrid weather and broken it - structurally (but made the delivery date!!!), I have no desire to do that again, and I am slightly nervous of boats without a sea-going pedigree...

Maybe my decision-making is clouded by having lost a chum at sea... Anyone for a round of golf?
 

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Re: Goodbye

Ah. So it at last comes out. The blokes a complete plonker but hopefully alive and willing to learn. Would still like to learn about his voyage though. I thought I had done some stupid things, but this takes the biscuit. RIP!!
 

ClassicPlastic

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Re: Goodbye

Haydn,

Maybe you were right...

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disaster stories are most welcome.

Hope you decided to stay put untill the weather improves though...

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Re: Goodbye

Well, I've kept quiet so far about the boat, but I live near Naburn Marina and if it is the boat I think it is, it had been on the hard at Naburn for a long time so obviously the engines hadn't had any extended running. I know it was serviced but thats not neccessarily going to find faults. (Boat looked OK though)

When I first read this post I was worried about the plan to take it down the East Coast apparently without a proper sea trail and with a novice crew, and with all due respect I don't think a run down the Ouse to the Humber counts as an adequate "sea" trial when the next voyage is out into the North Sea. I certainly would not consider the trip without a very full spares itinery.

Seems to be another case of the inexperienced not listening to what the experienced say because they don't like what they hear and because the experienced all agree, that makes them a clique.

I hope they made it and the trip hasn't put them off boating - My boat broke down in the middle of Alcudia Bay last summer, 80C, no wind, sea like a mirror and even that knocked our confidence so I can't imagine (and I hope I never find out) what an engine failure would be like in a rough North Sea in March.

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Re: Goodbye

much in what you say, and I too suspect a case of 'hoping it will be OK' over the generally negative contributions made about the trip, boat and timing (weather/conditions).

Possibly the most bizzare thread I have had the pleasure of reading though for a long time - especially as I had initally taken the post at face value and consider tcm by any measure to be a part of any clique on here but it was his offer of help in similar circumstances (well East Coast anyway) that resulted in an excellent read and a good number of leasons for us all a bit back. No doublt it was this that hlb had in mind with his response. <font color="red"> (Anyone still got the link to that story?) </font>

Definitely the best and the worst of the forum on show.

Finally I too hope he makes it OK.
 
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