Westerly Centaur

[NUTMEG]

Ahem...

Rubbish, Tiger is by a different designer, Pembroke is Centaur with a fin keel.

Tiger and Cirrus did not have the knuckle.

Before posting, please read the whole thread.
You stand a good chance of making a pillock of yourself as I did, hence my apology and retraction.



Steve

 

[bitbaltic]

Before posting, please read the whole thread.
You stand a good chance of making a pillock of yourself as I did, hence my apology and retraction.



Steve

agreed, it's hardly a big deal, people seem keen to point it out quite rudely before reading on to see that it was sorted. Westerly made five hundred thousand variants so perhaps the officianados have something to prove. Anyway I was going to reply to this chap in a similar vein but you got in before me

Cheers

 

[AngusMcDoon]

If a few people here seem to think putting an interior into a yacht is more difficult then the Appollo moon landing programme. that's their problem and inadequacies.

Nobody has said it's difficult. That's your imagination making things up again. What people have said is that it is too expensive to be worthwhile compared to the cost of the same boat with an intact interior, and that's assuming labour is free.

Have you looked at the boat I linked to yet? Do you still think that the OP's boat is better value? A yes or no answer will do. It might be better not to make assumptions about the abilities of people you don't know. It may make you look less of an odlid.

 

[Seajet]

Seajet. John Butler was the designer of the Westerly Tiger and its smaller(23ft)sister the Cirrus.

The interiors of the Centaur and Pembroke are virtuall identical to that of the Tiger and Cirrus, but have options to their layout below.
A well cared for Tiger with a modern Beta, Nanni or Volvo 10hp engine will be offered at around £7.5-8K; there's one on the Hamble that is in very good condition that has been for sale for a year now, but I suspect it still has the original 10hp Volvo MD1B.

The Tiger is an easily driven yacht under sail or motor,and does not need a larger engine for her 6kts, is very predictable going astern, rather better handling in this respect than the Centaur.
The headlining replacement does not have to be in vinyl, the side panels would look better in vinyl though, but an example I've seen has the headlining in 1mm thick ply and varnished, or painted with a matt white if you prefer.
Replacement side windows -the aluminium frames alone are about a £100 each and need those special screws to fix them.
Like all of the early Westerlys they are heavily built and may attract some osmosis, but are sound hulls and rigs, however, should you view one check the deck fittings for any deformation of the deck and upper fastenings particularly near to the previously mentioned forward window area.
Of course I am a Tiger owner,but I still like and have sailed a Centaur regularly some years ago,and they are good boats.


ianat182

Ian,

seems good sense to me - 'easily driven ' seems to be a term forgotten now in favour of '30+ hp turbo diesel' ...

People would do well to look at established, tried and tested designs with good backup and exprerienced support rather than new trendy jobs where the main concentration has been on the pattern on the curtains !

 

[Seajet]

Angus,

the simple fact is far fewer people can be bothered - or have the skills to - work on boats any more, which I find very sad.

Andy

 

[WestWittering]

Angus,

the simple fact is far fewer people can be bothered - or have the skills to - work on boats any more, which I find very sad.

Andy

Maybe they dont have the time & would rather be on the water sailing???

Di

Regarding the headlinings, ours had ours replaced with vinyl look-alike panels, with wood strips running stern to aft. Very smart it looks too. I think the Rassey had something similar at the show!!

 

[AngusMcDoon]

the simple fact is far fewer people can be bothered - or have the skills to - work on boats any more, which I find very sad.

Maybe they think 'Hmm, £5k for an old shed that will take a year to fix and a whole bundle of money, or £5.2k for a complete boat I can sail home. Now which should I buy?'

Did you like the boat for £5.2k I posted? Good value, isn't it?

 

[Lakesailor]

wood strips running stern to aft.

How does that go then?

 

[pvb]

How does that go then?

Stop it!

 

[pvb]

Regarding the headlinings, ours had ours replaced with vinyl look-alike panels, with wood strips running stern to aft. Very smart it looks too. I think the Rassey had something similar at the show!!

It's been a Hallberg Rassy feature for decades, and works very well.

 

[EuanMcKenzie]

a real advert

This one sold this summer .. from the same yard in Tignabruaich as that Pembroke is currently located.

The Pembroke used to race with Kyles of Bute SC and did ok and because it didn't bump on the bottom twice a day is in nice nick. Do you need bilge keels? may be worth a punt as I think the owner has now swallowed the anchor.

The price of the attached puts your project boat in perspective i think. This is what you need to ask if you actually want to sell a centaur.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

This one sold this summer .. from the same yard in Tignabruaich as that Pembroke is currently located.

The Pembroke used to race with Kyles of Bute SC and did ok and because it didn't bump on the bottom twice a day is in nice nick. Do you need bilge keels? may be worth a punt as I think the owner has now swallowed the anchor.

The price of the attached puts your project boat in perspective i think. This is what you need to ask if you actually want to sell a centaur.

Looks like quite a steal.

 

[EuanMcKenzie]

didn't hang around long once word got about. My mate was going for a look then found it already sold.

He got a smaller one for circa £3k instead

What's the smaller version called? Anyone?

 

[AngusMcDoon]

rather than new trendy jobs where the main concentration has been on the pattern on the curtains !

And other frivolous stuff like the attachment of the keels.

When you've taken your rose tinted spectacles off, remind me how many boats Beneteau build per year now compared to Westerly.

 

[ferrispeterchris]

didn't hang around long once word got about. My mate was going for a look then found it already sold.

He got a smaller one for circa £3k instead

What's the smaller version called? Anyone?

"Pageant" like wot I have.

 

[ostell]

Or even Westerly 21 if you want to go smaller.

 

[stuartwineberg]

AKA

Or even Westerly 21 if you want to go smaller.

and very similar was at times called the Warwick. My first yacht and a fine sea boat - standing headroom, sea loo in a 21 footer - not bad - took us all over from Weymouth to Chichester. Pity about the ABSOLUTELY S**T Petter engine it had in it. When I sold it the new owner wisely got rid and put a small Volvo in. Still a good boat though

 

[WestWittering]

How does that go then?

You know what I mean - front to back (not back to back as wot I rit). I was in a rush to get to the YC for the results of our first ever race.....

Di

 

[WestWittering]

Maybe they think 'Hmm, £5k for an old shed that will take a year to fix and a whole bundle of money, or £5.2k for a complete boat I can sail home. Now which should I buy?'

Did you like the boat for £5.2k I posted? Good value, isn't it?

If it is as nice as it looks in the photos, then THAT was a steal!

Di

 

[stearman65]

Roller Main Yuk

We had one on our Moody 40, worst invention since spirit levels for boats. Assuming it's the same, with a handle on the mast front & removable kicking strap that has to come off to reef or a claw that gooses the sails.
Stearman65.