Weird cures for seasickness

johnalison

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The ginger cure used to be crystallised ginger washed down with ginger wine. I take no responsibility for any untoward results of trying this.
 

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Moving away from ginger.

Although I can't stand the stuff, I gulp a can of coke down if feeling a little queasy.

After a massive belch of about 9.7 on the Richter Scale I feel ok.
 

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I seem to have developed a resistance to Stugeron. I used to suffer from seasickness, got ove it for a year or so, then recently suffered again. 2 x Stugeron on arrival at boat previous evening, no alcohol or coffee, a light breakfast then 2 more Stugeron. Everything re-appeared in the reverse order it went down including the Stugeron.

Should I have started taking it earlier the day before?

Any cast iron cures out there that actually have me on the boat rather than I the park?

Although not completely debilitated by the sickness I know it would probably affect judgement in an emergency.
 

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The one (almost) certain cure for most people is habituation. That is, go sailing as much as possible.

It tends to be specific to one kind of motion so is somewhat specific to the boat, ie getting used to the motion of a cross channel ferry might not help much with a small yacht in a Solent chop.

A few people don't habituate. The time to find out if you are one of them is, perhaps, not after you have signed on for a round the world voyage.

A couple of other points:
Susceptibility to motion sickness decreases with age.
It is unusual (not unknown, though) for anyone to be sick in a sailing dinghy.
 

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That's so wrong! It's most of the time that its psychological rather than physical. IMHO

No it really isn't. This sort of thing does make me quite cross, particularly as it's often said to novice sailors who are thereby made to feel that it's their own fault they're feeling rubbish & are not told how to deal with it. The main aggravants are what the French call the three Fs: faim, froid, fatigue (hunger, cold, tiredness). Take care of those, take pills, avoid alcohol & fatty foods, & you're off to a good start.
 

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... The main aggravants are what the French call the three Fs: faim, froid, fatigue (hunger, cold, tiredness). Take care of those, take pills, avoid alcohol & fatty foods, & you're off to a good start.
Very true. It's very noticeable that, amongst crews racing to France, seasickness is worse on the return trip following a couple of days of jollies, than during the outgoing race itself.
 

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seasickness

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Sea sickness is a state of mind. So if sitting on a newspaper makes one feel better then why not? By doing that the person will feel calmer, relax and so not feel so tense. Like a placebo sort of thing.
Most people make themselves ill just by thinking about it even before the vessel has left the dock.
Being at sea is the most calming thing in the world, if only them landlubbers knew it!
 

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Sea sickness is a state of mind. So if sitting on a newspaper makes one feel better then why not? By doing that the person will feel calmer, relax and so not feel so tense. Like a placebo sort of thing.
Most people make themselves ill just by thinking about it even before the vessel has left the dock.
Being at sea is the most calming thing in the world, if only them landlubbers knew it!
If only the world's military knew as much as you, then they wouldn't need to spend time and money on researching motion sickness and its prevention.
 

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Humans have evolved to vomit up poisons. Examples of poisons include those evolved by some plants to deter animals from eating them.

Typical symptoms of plant poisoning commonly include disturbance of the optic nerves and the part of the brain which links the balance organs to the visual sense, leading to mismatch between the vision and the balance inputs in to the brain.

These symptoms are mimicked by the motion of a vessel, without the usual visual references such as a horizon, or a fixed immobile surface to stand on, (usually the solid surface of the planet), and the motion at sea even on a heavy ferry can resemble the loss of balance and staggering about often caused by plant poisons.

This sort of plant poisoning is unknown to those to do their hunting and gathering at the local Sainsburys, but well known to pre-industrial people who live in forests, or the Bruce Parry's of the world who experiment on themselves.

We lived off wild plants for millions of years and evolved sophisticated defences against their attempts to poison us.

So, the brain believes it has been poisoned, and does two things:

1) Vomits up the 'poison' until the symptoms improve.

2) Make the person feel memorably miserable in order to deter them (and their family who see their suffering) from eating that plant again.

I have read this recently in some book about evolutionary psychology, I will try and find the reference when I'm passing. Stephen Pinker perhaps. cheers Jerry edit, also vindicated by Nato/Otan Guidelines on Motion Sickness, Dr Cheung (quick google found it)

(Everyone accepts that the vision being out of kilter with the balance causes seasickness, this is the first convincing hypothesis exactly WHY it does so!)
 
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Seasickness is not just a 'state of mind', that sort of attitude should have died away with the insensitive, domineering stiff-upper-lip style of leadership demonstrated by the Blighs and RF Scotts of this world.
You can't just 'snap out of it' although people obviously vary widely in their ability to crew a yacht when feeling like sh!t.

It needs dealing with, without blame, especially on a yacht voyage where you might lose 25% of your crew to seasickness, and another 25% to look after them..
Anything that helps, whether sophisticated pharmaceuticals, ginger nuts or taking the helm should be considered.
Sometimes you need to forcefully persuade a seasick person to get in their bunk, or they will continue staggering on deck getting colder and more dehydrated until you really do have a medical emergency which was avoidable.

The "3 F's" should be managed for eveyone on board anyway!
Just some thoughts from my personal experience cheers Jerry
 
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