VHF and AIS transceiver

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Does anyone know if there's a combined VHF and AIS transceiver on the market?

Seems an obvious way to reduce the amount of space used by the electronic installation, but so far all I've found is a combination VHF and AIS receiver.
 

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Over the last 10 or 15 years a number have been announced but they never became widely available in the UK. I waited two or three years myself but in the end gave up.
All the present ones seem expensive for what they are and it would be interesting to know how easy it is to actually get hold of one.
 

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Expensive option for a basic spec class B (not B+) transceiver.
Money isn't the only cost to consider. While I agree that combining them isn't necessarily the best option, OP did mention space. Separate units are expensive in terms of space, which may be the bigger consideration. Separate units are often in the same ballpark money wise so aside from flexibility and possibly quality/features the combined unit makes some sense.

With that said...
I have the v60B and do not recommend it. The remote mic is bluetooth only and not as reliable as you'd hope. The radio isn't as good signal as my old Standard Horizon, nor as easy to operate and the remote mic isn't loud enough in some situations. I'm also unable to upgrade the AIS component to the latest tech (not that I think it's necessary, but the option would be nice) without replacing the whole thing. If I replace the whole thing there's effectively no value in the current radio since neither AIS nor DSC can be changed without paying a fee.
 

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no value in the current radio since neither AIS nor DSC can be changed without paying a fee.
Yaesu ltd, Segensworth (standard horizon) can change/ delete the mmsi number for £17.50 while you wait , or £25 if you post it to them.
 

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Yaesu ltd, Segensworth (standard horizon) can change/ delete the mmsi number for £17.50 while you wait , or £25 if you post it to them.
The SH went with the old boat, just the B&G/Navico unit now which I assume is their own?
 

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Yaesu ltd, Segensworth (standard horizon) can change/ delete the mmsi number for £17.50 while you wait , or £25 if you post it to them.
Yaesu told me:
"Hi Jamie
That’s good news, your radio has the latest firmware so you can reset the MMSI remotely. Please follow the attached instructions that show how to generate the information I need."
This was concerning a GX2200 Version 5.02. Nowhere has there been any mention of a price, but that doesn't mean that there won't be a charge!
 

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There are postings on here where people have had their mmsi reset for free from standard horizon.
I can only guess that some are possible to do remotely but others have to go to them in order to flash the whatever it is.
Would also guess a firmware update would delete everything ?
 

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There are postings on here where people have had their mmsi reset for free from standard horizon.
I can only guess that some are possible to do remotely but others have to go to them in order to flash the whatever it is.
Would also guess a firmware update would delete everything ?
Yes I did mine with a free code from SH. Apparently it depends on which firmware version you have - will try to find the email.
 

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Expensive option for a basic spec class B (not B+) transceiver.

I would fit a separate VHF and a decent AIS with built in splitter, such as an Emrak B9xx transceiver.
Thanks - it's ashame that unit seems to only put AIS out on the Wifi - NMEA sentences for all transducers would be useful too.

Would definitely prefer a B+ as Carrier Sense class B on Lake Solent is a bit hit and miss at times.
 

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Does anyone know if there's a combined VHF and AIS transceiver on the market?
There are chart plotters that have built in ais tranceivers? These also have the ability to easily delete the mmsi for a different one, but they are usually chinese.
The chinese do seem to be somewhat ahead of the likes of garmin and raymarine as they had ais B+ quite some time ago while the others are playing catch up.
Now the chinese plotters come with OneNet which plugs together with ethernet cables and can carry up to 10gb to replace the 250kb max speed of nmea 2000.
 

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There are chart plotters that have built in ais tranceivers? These also have the ability to easily delete the mmsi for a different one, but they are usually chinese.
The chinese do seem to be somewhat ahead of the likes of garmin and raymarine as they had ais B+ quite some time ago while the others are playing catch up.
Now the chinese plotters come with OneNet which plugs together with ethernet cables and can carry up to 10gb to replace the 250kb max speed of nmea 2000.
I'm surprised in how long it's taking the major players to implement OneNet in leisure craft devices. Seems an absolute no brainer and gets rid of the various CanBUS clones.

I can only assume they're waiting to find out what the post-paper requirements are. I spoke to a few at Boot and they were all keen but awaiting regulations.
 

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I'm surprised in how long it's taking the major players to implement OneNet in leisure craft devices. Seems an absolute no brainer and gets rid of the various CanBUS clones.
I'm not, Ethernet is extremely power hungry by comparison, both electrically and in the software stack required to drive it. I don't see it every fully taking over from the far simpler CAN stuff. Ethernet also has issues with address provisioning which the marine folk don't appear to be capable of understanding, so I'd expect even if they did use Ethernet they'd do so on a private LAN rather than an open one.
I tried (as a computer expert!) to set up the network on my boat with B&G alongside Victron, Starlink and a router and it's impossible to make it consistently work unless you guarantee various bits are always on at the same time - which buys you in to a lot of power consumption that shouldn't be necessary.
 
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