Tying up to harbour walls.

[Giblets]

There might be ogin on the floor, and the awful smell of someone else's wee wee's you know,
and gawd forbid if someone has left a grurt big turd in a pan & not flushed it properly
Much nicer to use marina toilets, you get a better class of people in there. Their shoit don't stink either

Never been to West Cowes Marina during Cowes Weeks have you then?

 

[john_morris_uk]

Walls. Terrible things.
They scuff yer fenders
Smell of wee and weed
Chafe yer lines on the edges
Are subject to voyeurs
And stone kickers
The ladders are in the wrong place, too short, too slimy, too disrepaired
The late night house music, shaggin, leak takin, condom throwing...
Terrrrrible things, aye.

I'm trying to work out which bits of the above ties in with the post suggesting the solution is a harness and the main halyard?

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

I'm trying to work out which bits of the above ties in with the post suggesting the solution is a harness and the main halyard?

The fool posting was actually answering your original question.

"One of the great pleasures for us when cruising is tying up to harbour walls in small harbours especially if there's water to stay afloat at all states of the tide. It appears that there are lots of people who are averse to doing such a thing even and I'm trying to work out why?"

I realise it is a rarity on this forum, but please try to keep up.

 

[dharl]

Old Mike Peyton - certainly one of the best 'yotmeister instructors' - had a couple of words to say about this topic....

and

thank you for posting those...laughed so loud I woke up the boss in the office...

 

[Blueboatman]

Fools aside ( and goodness, where would we all be without humour.
And real advice masquerading as humour eh, bit like those Bluffer guides...)

I can only suggest that once the harness has been used sensibly in assisting a challenged crewmember to get ashore and back more safely, I would be wondrin' what other uses all those old, crutchless harnesses could be, with or without the non stretch 12mm halyard and a wen, I mean winch, or two?

Could involve a wailing wall too I s'pose.

 

[john_morris_uk]

The fool posting was actually answering your original question.

"One of the great pleasures for us when cruising is tying up to harbour walls in small harbours especially if there's water to stay afloat at all states of the tide. It appears that there are lots of people who are averse to doing such a thing even and I'm trying to work out why?"

I realise it is a rarity on this forum, but please try to keep up.

Actually I was trying to make a joke... It appears it was too subtle.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Fools aside ( and goodness, where would we all be without humour.
And real advice masquerading as humour eh, bit like those Bluffer guides...)

I can only suggest that once the harness has been used sensibly in assisting a challenged crewmember to get ashore and back more safely, I would be wondrin' what other uses all those old, crutchless harnesses could be, with or without the non stretch 12mm halyard and a wen, I mean winch, or two?

Could involve a wailing wall too I s'pose.

I get the impression you knew what I was alluding to! ;0

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

Actually I was trying to make a joke... It appears it was too subtle.

Certainly was for me. But now that I understand I shall have a retrospective chuckle.

 

[Blueboatman]

Aye,
For those tempted to try..Heres an old trick ( an I have been lying alongside and drying out on walls since the year dot I guess). Keep the bow and stern lines really long, add a couple of tyres midway, and these shock absorbers stop surge which is a bit of a pita even with a fender board..A length of hosepipe sorts the chaff where lines cross a quayside edge..
before posh travel lifts, it was quite normal even for posh plastic to dry out and antifould agin a wall, sometimes turning round after a tide..I believe this is frowned upon if not actually banned, certainly in France..shame, quite fun to sail over wiv a dirty bottom and return with a shiny one avec encore du vin and sans Le Travelift bill, oui?

 

[alant]

Walls. Terrible things.
They scuff yer fendersSmell of wee and weed
Chafe yer lines on the edges
Are subject to voyeurs
And stone kickers
The ladders are in the wrong place, too short, too slimy, too disrepaired
The late night house music, shaggin, leak takin, condom throwing...
Terrrrrible things, aye.

Much better in a nice safe marina where they call you Sir and have leccy and security and other boats, all just like you'se

As fur them furreign walls. Well they're bigger aren't they eh? Go up n down more.. Ugh

Use a fender board then!

 

[oldbilbo]

I have the feeling that 'Blueboatman' and I have served similar apprenticeships, so 'ere's another blast from the past.... I carry a couple of 2m.+ lengths of chain with shackles. These can be slipped through the big rings still found on many working quaysides - such as Mevagissey - or over a very rusty cleat on a laid-up trawler, and the normal mooring warp passed through/made off on the shackles. No need for chafe sleeves, for the chain lies over the concrete/granite edge. Also, it's rather harder for urchins in Irish ports such as Donaghadee or Arklow to cast off or cut your lines.

The best fender board I've seen had holes cut in to serve as steps in a boarding ladder, or to assist in getting up onto the quay side.

 

[SAWDOC]

Aye,
For those tempted to try..Heres an old trick ( an I have been lying alongside and drying out on walls since the year dot I guess). Keep the bow and stern lines really long, add a couple of tyres midway, and these shock absorbers stop surge which is a bit of a pita even with a fender board..A length of hosepipe sorts the chaff where lines cross a quayside edge..
before posh travel lifts, it was quite normal even for posh plastic to dry out and antifould agin a wall, sometimes turning round after a tide..I believe this is frowned upon if not actually banned, certainly in France..shame, quite fun to sail over wiv a dirty bottom and return with a shiny one avec encore du vin and sans Le Travelift bill, oui?

I am admiring your ability to post in a variety of accents!!

 

[LadyInBed]

Some wouldn't dream of dipping an anchor into the water, let alone tying to a wall!

 

[temptress]

agree

One of the great pleasures for us when cruising is tying up to harbour walls in small harbours especially if there's water to stay afloat at all states of the tide. It appears that there are lots of people who are averse to doing such a thing even and I'm trying to work out why?

...........

I agree love being in harbours like this. I think it is a lack of harbours and not just lack of experiance thta prevents more people doing this.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Some wouldn't dream of dipping an anchor into the water, let alone tying to a wall!

I know! I am utterly confounded when I meet people who say that they have NEVER used their anchor - let alone slept whilst the boat is anchored overnight.

But there again, why should I be surprised? There are plenty of boats that never leave the marina...

Its a free world and who am I to criticise their use (or lack of use) of their boat...

 

[[2574]]

I don't understand the need to criticise the decisions of others who choose not to be salty sea dogs. If the next guy prefers a marina berth to a harbour wall then so what? and if he doesn't like to anchor so what? And if he likes to keep his fenders clean then so what? Why don't we all enjoy what we enjoy and let others make their own decisions? We're not getting paid to do this, it is for enjoyment! Next to me in the marina is a gent on a £400k boat which he has not yet taken out since he bought it last year. He keeps his fenders shiny, he enjoys fettling and he treats it like a country cottage, nowt wrong with that.

Rob

 

[Sandyman]

I know! I am utterly confounded when I meet people who say that they have NEVER used their anchor - let alone slept whilst the boat is anchored overnight.

Have similar thoughts, especially today when everyone has GPS anchor alarms. Perhaps it a lack of confidence in setting the hook ?

 

[john_morris_uk]

I don't understand the need to criticise the decisions of others who choose not to be salty sea dogs. If the next guy prefers a marina berth to a harbour wall then so what? and if he doesn't like to anchor so what? And if he likes to keep his fenders clean then so what? Why don't we all enjoy what we enjoy and let others make their own decisions? We're not getting paid to do this, it is for enjoyment! Next to me in the marina is a gent on a £400k boat which he has not yet taken out since he bought it last year. He keeps his fenders shiny, he enjoys fettling and he treats it like a country cottage, nowt wrong with that.

Rob

Show me where the criticism is? As I said,

Its a free world and who am I to criticise their use (or lack of use) of their boat...

 

[erbster]

I love the idea of getting away from marinas. Visited Barmouth this Easter. First time against a harbour wall (very irregular and uneven stone wall; dries). My boat is small (19') and can take the ground. The harbour master and a local skipper of a fishing boat could not have been more helpful. My fenders are quite small (found adequate so far in my limited experience) so they lent me two large round fenders. Was a bit uncomfortable when just/not quite afloat, but apart from that an enjoyable experience.

However, after leaving I found that my lovely dark blue gelcoat is badly scratched where the forward fender was. I would like to do this sort of thing again, but do not want to reduce my boat to shreds.

Clearly there is a lot of experience here, so my question is this: Would fender boards have helped? As you can imagine, I have very limited space aboard. I could fit one of these options in the void under the cockpit:

Option 1: fender board (two shortish ones?) maybe made from a decking plank I have in my garage
Option 2: pair of large fenders- kept deflated until needed (a much more expensive option

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

definitely a fender board.... the scratching is from all the 'muck' the fenders have picked up off the wall.... a fender board stops this completely, by making sure your fenders never touch the wall.... and also deals with uneveness in the wall really effectively.

A typical fender board is a shortened scaffold plank, usually around 5' or so, and is kept lashed to guard rails... but anywhere that works on board is good!