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Hi Have moved to the broads and have bought a little project to do, a Teal 22 however need a trailer to move it, what would be the best trailer to buy, as I can find the length, beam etc but not the weight. Also how far can the boat hang over the end of the trailer, ie do I need a trailer 22 feet plus draw bar,ie 25/26 ft long? or can I get away with a shorter one. Is there a website or even a thread on here where there are some sort of calculations to give guidience?

sorry it long winded . many thanks gary
 
peddler said:
Hi Have moved to the broads and have bought a little project to do, a Teal 22 however need a trailer to move it, what would be the best trailer to buy, as I can find the length, beam etc but not the weight. Also how far can the boat hang over the end of the trailer, ie do I need a trailer 22 feet plus draw bar,ie 25/26 ft long? or can I get away with a shorter one. Is there a website or even a thread on here where there are some sort of calculations to give guidience?

sorry it long winded . many thanks gary
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A good site for the legal aspects is The National Trailer and Towing Association website

You should be able to find the max permitted overhangs on there.

FWIW my boat over hangs the rear of the trailer by between 6 and 7 ft. Technically I believe I should have the lighting board on a frame that can be extended from the rear of the trailer. In practice I fix it to the transom of the boat.

My boat is a twin keeled sailing boat which stands on the main part of the trailer on its keels but a motor cruiser may need more support to the aft parts of the hull.
A trailer manufacturer should be able to offer a suitable trailer if you are thinking of buying new.

RM trailers are pretty good I believe http://www.rmtrailers.co.uk/

I'd expect the trailer for your boat to extend to the very back of the boat and perhaps extend by about 18" beyond the bow. I dont think mine extends that much.
 
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Hayling Trailers, Hayling Island Hants are one of the major suppliers and probably have a standard design which will fit your Teal.

Their products are good, but be prepared for 'couldn't care less' attitude...

02392 464176

I'd think initially telling them the boat length, keel type & draught should get a quote / guestimate.
 
Your boat will weigh about 450kg dry plus the weight of your outboard, so you might get away with a 750kg unbraked single axle model. (But if you have a 150hp 4 stroke on the back, you wont !).

With a powerboat you MUST support the full length of the hull and keel. Its especially important to have good support under the transom, or the weight of the engine could snap your boat in half.

Lots of different options from more modern designs have steel sections down either side, older models might be more of a basic ' + ' shape. Either design will work as long as its in good condition and plated for the correct weight.

If you tell us a bit more about your engine, or post a picture we can give a more accurate weight estimate.
 
Ah,

I was thinking of the early grp sailing boat Teal !

Still, Hayling Trailers would still be worth asking; I can't help thinking any 22' boat - even a mobo - with suitable trailer is going to require brakes on the trailer and a fair size towing vehicle, the police have stated they intend to target towed boats, as the catching real criminals idea has proven a bit tricky.
 
With respect you really need to find out what your boat weighs. I suggest about 600 kilo (without engine)which with weight of trailer takes you over the 750k unbraked trailer weight.
 
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22ft power boat by my standards is pretty big and heavy. Correct about needing trailer to the transom to support the engine (assuming o/b) completely different from a sail boat where overhang of 1.5 metres or so is normal with lights on the transom. Note also that the trailer will need wheels well aft to balance the trailer because most weight is aft again unlike a sail boat. The good news is that power boat trailers tend to be more uniform and simpler than sail boat so you should be able to rent a trailer where most weight is taken on the keel with rollers or bunks to balance the boat (sideways). But as said you will need a substantial towing vehicle.
good luck olewill
 
landlockedpirate said:
Your boat will weigh about 450kg dry plus the weight of your outboard, so you might get away with a 750kg unbraked single axle model. (But if you have a 150hp 4 stroke on the back, you wont !).

With a powerboat you MUST support the full length of the hull and keel. Its especially important to have good support under the transom, or the weight of the engine could snap your boat in half.

Lots of different options from more modern designs have steel sections down either side, older models might be more of a basic ' + ' shape. Either design will work as long as its in good condition and plated for the correct weight.

If you tell us a bit more about your engine, or post a picture we can give a more accurate weight estimate.
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I had a Teal 22 a while back. Though I never lifted it, I think it could be a bit heavier than that.
 
colhel said:
I had a Teal 22 a while back. Though I never lifted it, I think it could be a bit heavier than that.
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Yes, thinking about it, you are right, the weight I quoted was based on a bare shell (Teal did all sorts of fit outs).

On reflection the OP is going to need a braked trailer unless he only has a tiny outboard on the back and no cruising gear at all.

We really need to know a bit more about the boat especially engine and the layout to make a more informed decision.

Of course I could have made completely the wrong assumption and its actually a Teal sailing boat ! :o
 
22ft powerboat + trailer will weigh a good bit more than 750kg. Therefore a braked trailer will be needed, which again increases all up weight.

You MUST find out - if necessary by weighing the outfit on a weighbridge - what the actual all up weight is. If you dont weigh it the police will, if they think there's a chance of improving their detection figures. You are a much easier target than the average criminal - case can be proved simply by weighing things.

Trailer law is complex, and it is as well to know EXACTLY how the law relates to your specific outfit: You need to know the weight of your outfit, fully loaded with engine, water, fuel and gear and the weight of the trailer. You need to know the maximum permissible trail weight for your towing vehicle, and the maximum permissible weight of the whole thing, towing vehicle, and trailer, loaded ready for the road, and be quite certain it does not exceed the towing vehicle's specified MAM figure (total all up weight with loaded trailer (except they probably have another acronym now!).

Dont bother to ask the local Police station if your outfit is legal: they will never commit themselves.

Its quite a good idea to have all these figures written down somewhere in the car in case you are stopped.

Tyres - must be correct for the load; Run a close coupled trailer with the wrong tyres, and break the speed limit, you lose your licence!

In other words, don't take chances: as someone said, the Plod prefer catching out you and your boat trailer to chasing real criminals.
 
some information,

early 100 22s were built by Teal Marine products between 1962 and 1973. Hull shape is a shallow V and were fitted with either outboards or petrol outdrives. It was also known as the Teal 670.
Teal 22 Typical Specifications
(Specifications may vary between boats)

Length: 22ft
Year: 1962 -1973
Beam: 7ft 9ins
Draught: 1ft 6ins**

**Also seen online stated as 1' 2" (aft cabin model)
Additionally stating weight as 2240lb (approx 1 metric Tonne/1016kg), and rated for 150hp inboard or 50hp outboard.

My boat has a outboard which will be transported separately. Hope this helps

Many thanks for all info so far, this is a very good site and a wonderful forum

Many thanks

Gary
 
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