scotty123
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Been looking at some very old posts & Tradewind 35's seem to be a marmite boat.
What alternative would you consider?
What alternative would you consider?
Tradewind 35 - equivalents?
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Rappey
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I quite like them. All that lovely uncluttered deck space. Wasn't it ferro boats that started the "endurance" design?
Tradewind 35, endurance 35, spencer 44, stratimar 35, windboats and De-Kleer.
As alternatives you just have to look to the golden globe race for similar vessels for long keelers..
Tradewind 35, endurance 35, spencer 44, stratimar 35, windboats and De-Kleer.
As alternatives you just have to look to the golden globe race for similar vessels for long keelers..
rotrax
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Some Hartley designs are flush decked - our 32 certainly is.
An older Island Packet may suit - marmite as well, but great build quality and good passage makers.
Check out IP 35'S and 38's.
Rappey
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You have a Hartley 32?
scotty123
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Equivalents, don't necessarily have to be flush deck look alikes, just 'modern' design alternatives that would satisfy the same soul.
Old Bumbulum
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Biscay and Rustler 36 are more or less equivalent, the Biscay more so I think.
I narrowed my choices down to a Tradewind or Biscay and looked at several. Both are bulletproof heavyweights that won't win any races but not much to choose between them. Biscay is available as a ketch, Tradewind is not. Interiors of both vary depending on who fitted them out.
As mentioned above the deck space on the TW is a wonderful feature. In standard layout the one criticism I have is that the head door is in the wrong place meaning you can't isolate it from the v berth, awkward at night with people in the v berth if yu need to use the can...and they could have made one of the saloon berths a double. As it stands it's only a 4 berth boat unless you have the (unusual) pilot berth.
I narrowed my choices down to a Tradewind or Biscay and looked at several. Both are bulletproof heavyweights that won't win any races but not much to choose between them. Biscay is available as a ketch, Tradewind is not. Interiors of both vary depending on who fitted them out.
As mentioned above the deck space on the TW is a wonderful feature. In standard layout the one criticism I have is that the head door is in the wrong place meaning you can't isolate it from the v berth, awkward at night with people in the v berth if yu need to use the can...and they could have made one of the saloon berths a double. As it stands it's only a 4 berth boat unless you have the (unusual) pilot berth.
robmcg
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Biscay 36 is sort of similar as already mentioned. We have a TW35 but have a door to the head and to the forepeak so not encountered the above problem. At a push we can sleep 7 but I would neither try it or recommend it!!! ?
E39mad
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Vancouver 34
Rustler 36
Barbican 35
Rival 36
Rustler 36
Barbican 35
Rival 36
rotrax
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Yes, in corten steel, self built in NZ by a good welder and a fair carpenter in 1986. Bukh DV20, interesting engine positioning - very high with a two piece propshaft and car UJ/s.
Bought it very cheaply as a crash pad five years ago and now slowly turning it into a useful boat. Been sailing in Wellington Harbour today - 7.4 kts by GPS sailing full and by.
We quite like her - she keeps our sailing skills up!
Our UK boat sails like a brick unless we have 15 - 20 knts true on the beam.
Minchsailor
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I have considered a TW35, as they are good seagoing boats, and I know people who have cruised them to Greenland, and around South America. However, after looking at a couple, I ruled them out as the flush deck makes them very dark below, feels claustrophobic, and, with the best will in the world, the interior feels very dated.
Often looked longingly at the Biscay............
Finished up with settling on a Rustler 36 which (in previous ownership) had completed 2 circumnavigations. 7 years later very pleased with my decision.
Often looked longingly at the Biscay............
Finished up with settling on a Rustler 36 which (in previous ownership) had completed 2 circumnavigations. 7 years later very pleased with my decision.
robmcg
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I tend to agree with what you have said. I looked at a couple of TW35's before buying and most had a layout I couldn't really live with. Fortunately we found one with longer coach roof windows which helps hugely with light and an interior layout that is almost identical to the Biscay minus the quarterberth. It makes the boat feel much bigger inside and you benefit from a large galley and C shaped saloon seating which is far more comfortable. Mind you, I think I would be equally happy in a Rustler 36 which has something of a timeless feel about it.
scotty123
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Doesn't one have a stick & tother a wheel?
Minchsailor
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"Doesn't one have a stick & tother a wheel?"
My R36 has a tiller (but a very few have a wheel). Oddly, I think the the design rather suits a tiller..................
My R36 has a tiller (but a very few have a wheel). Oddly, I think the the design rather suits a tiller..................
Rappey
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How does it fair against rust being corten? The "J" class velshedas old corten mast has been laying in a car park for the past 25 years and still has virtually no rust !
JIMS44
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Saga 36
Saltram31
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Saltram 36 . Don't come up for sale too often though.
rotrax
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It has some rust, mostly where dissimilar metals were used - corten steel hull and superstructure, ordinary steel for many internal parts. Throw in dampness from the foam backed carpet used as an interior liner and obvious galvanic corrosion had taken place.
Gradually getting her together, almost done now.
Out in the Harbour again this afternoon for a gentle sail with the Grandchildren, downwind on the jib alone, motorsailed back gently against a 15 knot Southerly.
Very spacious interior, well laid out for local conditions.
She would be out of place up the Hamble mind - a very strong, simple boat, but uglyish by comparison to modern AWB's.
dk
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Another vote for the Saga 36, or for better performance the Nicholson 35, Vancouver 34, Victoria 34
scotty123
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Which end is the front though?
jimi
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Lot depoends on what type of sailing you are doing. Used to do a lot of sailing with Para of theis parish when he had a T35 and I had the Bennie 331. If we sailed in company I always arrived first. If it was a long slog winward the T35 had an easier motion but was over on its ear, the Bennie sailed flatter but slammed more and was more easily stopped by big waves. Manouvring in harbour the T35 was a bit wilful partic in reverse where it always seemed a bit of a lottery as to which direction she'd end up choosing. Lovely boat, though for day sailing something lighter, faster, roomier might be more fun.
